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May 3rd, 2005, 11:59 AM
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If it's any consolation, I once saw a five-year old girl getting "wanded" at a security checkpoint at National Airport. I'd love to hear the rationale behind *that* "random check"...
P.S. *I'm* bearded and I haven't been unduly harrassed - but then I'm very Anglo-Saxon in appearance and not likely to be mistaken for a Mid-easterner.
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May 3rd, 2005, 12:09 PM
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That is the mysterious thing. I am roughly as middle-eastern as democracy or womens rights. My only thought is that anyone with a dicey haircut and beard carrying a big green bag of any race are considered shifty.
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May 3rd, 2005, 12:45 PM
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That's the new phrase for 'racial profiling' - random selection. 
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May 3rd, 2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: Randomn my foot!
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General Woundwort said:
If it's any consolation, I once saw a five-year old girl getting "wanded" at a security checkpoint at National Airport. I'd love to hear the rationale behind *that* "random check"...
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women with children are frequently recruited to smuggle all sorts of things. i wouldnt expect any of them to show up on a metal detector.
i would guess the person running the checkpoint just thought it would be "fun". which it probably was, and im sure it added an interesting experience to the girls trip. a good chance to broaden horizons, and all that.
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May 3rd, 2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: Randomn my foot!
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If it's any consolation, I once saw a five-year old girl getting "wanded" at a security checkpoint at National Airport. I'd love to hear the rationale behind *that* "random check"...
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Perhaps you should recall the stories of terrorists strapping bombs to little kids, then? They have the kids walk up to a checkpoint, the soldiers go "how cute", let the kid get close, and the adult watching from a bush pushes a button.
Wouldn't take much to do the same in an airport. Or use the kid to carry a weapon for someone else on the plane.
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May 3rd, 2005, 04:37 PM
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Perhaps you should recall the stories of terrorists strapping bombs to little kids, then? They have the kids walk up to a checkpoint, the soldiers go "how cute", let the kid get close, and the adult watching from a bush pushes a button.
Wouldn't take much to do the same in an airport. Or use the kid to carry a weapon for someone else on the plane.
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This was a five-year old kid, with no backpacks and no way of concealing a weapon or any object on her person. Neither was she of a Middle-eastern family. There was no logical reason for her to be searched.
Peggy Noonan wrote a piece awhile back saying that our "non-discriminatory" policies in this regard would get people killed. Kids and grannies get "randomly searched" while young Arab men get a pass because we don't want to look like we're "discriminating".
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May 3rd, 2005, 04:54 PM
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Re: Randomn my foot!
i dont think its as dire as you make it sound. and really, i wouldnt be worried about terrorists. id be worried about the nice white people bringing in cocaine, heroine, diamons, or tax-free bundles of cash.
of course, the most obvious thing that you can use children to smuggle, is the child its self. they generally average about $10,000 - at least for the white ones.
again, you wont pick up any of those things with a metal detector. airport security is 99% decorative.
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May 3rd, 2005, 06:15 PM
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Peggy Noonan wrote a piece awhile back saying that our "non-discriminatory" policies in this regard would get people killed. Kids and grannies get "randomly searched" while young Arab men get a pass because we don't want to look like we're "discriminating".
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You need the random aspect, otherwise people will figure out who can get past security, and exploit it.
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May 3rd, 2005, 08:35 PM
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Re: Randomn my foot!
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Perhaps you should recall the stories of terrorists strapping bombs to little kids, then? They have the kids walk up to a checkpoint, the soldiers go "how cute", let the kid get close, and the adult watching from a bush pushes a button.
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The mistake here is raising the adult in the bushes to the exalted level of terrorist. He is nothing more than a psychopathic killer! A criminal... as are most we call terrorists. A terrorist has an agenda, usually political, a criminal has only his self-interest and one above just likes blowing up people.
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I was told because of my size I would need to pay for two seats on the plane. (Back when I was thinking about going on vacation and pricing things out.) That discouraged me horribly. (Pre-911)
Airport security is a joke. It only serves to scrutinize the inocent while costing us all money. If they want to protect air planes, then require all pilots to take a breath test before take off.
"The terrorist took over the plane with a one inch toe clipper and a black hair comb!"
"He what?"
"The pilot was so drunk he thought the clipper was at least two inches long and the hair comb was a gun!"
"Oh my God! What happened?"
"Well everyone was terrified, I mean he had a comb and a once inch toe clipper for crying out loud, but this one guy, a fat man from coach, who was already upset over having to pay for two seats, even though the one next to him had some old lady in it, risked all of our lives and took on the terrorist."
"Oh my, what happened?"
"The fat guy beat the poor would be mass murdering terrorist senseless then demanded a refund for the extra seat that the old lady was sitting in."
"Damn vigilanties!"
"Ya, they arrested him when we landed and let the terrorist guy go so long as he promised not to sue the airline."
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