Best way to play C'tis Miasma?

[Turin]

for mounted commanders: figure out the distance it takes him to get directly in frot of your empoisener, then kill him with sleep touch.

[Zooko]

My Empoisoner with TWO skull talismans can kill mounted commanders.

[magnate]

Interesting reading, this - I'm just losing my first ever game as C'tis base, to Vanheim, and I'm thinking of trying Miasma next.

One question though - when you assassinate indie commanders, how do you know how many are left? When you've assassinated them all, can you take the province with a single scout because the troops will all rout immediately? I've never taken indy provinces by anything other than brute force, so I'm keen to know how this works.

CC

[Alneyan]

You don't know how many commanders are left, unless you attack the province (before or during the assassinations): you will then be told that you need to kill X commanders.

Once all commanders are dead, a scout is enough to take the province, as the enemy will rout right away.

[Agrajag]

Also, if one of your assassins has been ordered to assassinate but there was no assassination attempt, you know that there aren't any commanders left.
So, if you have two assassins assassinating in a single province, and one of them assassinates a commander and the other doesn't, you know for a fact that all commanders are dead.
You should notice though that assassinating commanders only works well against indies, because a normal player (or AI) can use his PD to make your assassinations useless.

Wow, so many S's in a single post :O

And, a funny quote related to assassinations: http://www.bash.org/?73185

[thejeff]

Strange, I haven't lost Empoisoners to any mounted commanders. No items or anything. A priest with bodyguards killed a couple, but fell to one with a skull staff and Raise Skeletons, as did Amazons.

Mounted commanders didn't seem to be able to reliably kill a skeleton per round. Sometimes they would, but often enough they'd fail.

[thejeff]

Of course, after posting that, I go home, play one turn and lose my next empoisoner to a mounted commander. When will I learn to keep my mouth shut.

[PDF]

Agrajag said:
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You should notice though that assassinating commanders only works well against indies, because a normal player (or AI) can use his PD to make your assassinations useless.

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What do you mean ? PD is useless vs Assassination, the PD leaders aren't targeted. Having a high PD helps discovering assassins, but you can't really count on it.
My preferred trick with any assassin (or even scouts !) is to give them a Black Bow and try to find the big enemy mages [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Cold.gif[/img]

[Alneyan]

I guess he means nobody will take one of your provinces with assassins alone, because of that PD. It's not quite correct though: an assassin doing a normal attack against 1 PD should win without trouble, and you will not always want to put PD in your provinces (if you plan on defending the province with a lone commander).

[Agrajag]

PDF said:
What do you mean ? PD is useless vs Assassination, the PD leaders aren't targeted.

What I meant was that because PD leaders are immune to assassinations, you can't take a none-indie province merely by assassinating all the leaders and marching over with a scout, since the PD commanders will be there to lead the troops.

EDIT: And just now I notice that everyone else explained it for me, exactly like I meant it. Silly me for not seeing there is a third page.