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June 12th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
Cat's pajamas, albeit I do think that Machaka's "Yasini the King Triumphant" should be left at H4, not H5. I think all the other heroic priests are simply one level higher than the normal priestly maximum for their nations, leaving Pythium and Marignon as the only ones who get an H5 for their utmost priest-hero.
Looked through them all just now, and it really makes them look like you'd be happy to get any of them - previously _way_ too many were imperceptively better than normally recruitabale units. (Example : Vanheim's Farbaut the berserker - dies just like that when the unmodded one is used in combat, even if you trick him out with magic items, at which point he _still_ dies and you lose the items.  )
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June 13th, 2005, 08:52 AM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
I uploaded v1.1 in the original post.
The reason I buffed the mages is, because even though they were definitely useful before, many of them felt just like national mages with one extra magic level.
I wanted them to be always better than recruitable commanders to give them more of a larger than life feel.
But I definitely have to thank you qantum_mechani for the idea to add extra item slots. Itīs a subtle buff that doesnīt mess with early game balance.
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June 13th, 2005, 10:21 AM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
I havn't used the mod but I like the idea. In my mind, it is something to make a turmoil & luck scale just a little more desirable.
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July 17th, 2005, 03:32 PM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
uploaded version 1_2 in the first post. Tell me if you like the changes.
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July 20th, 2005, 04:20 PM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
What about posting the changes outside the attachment here?
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July 20th, 2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
Compared to 1.1, looks like
- Added an image for the mod (very nice)
- Rago: set weapons
- Marius Lorca: reinvig 4 -> 3, set weapon
- Master of the Games: reinvig 2 -> 1, set weapon and armor, set poor leader
- Hierogallus: str, att 15 -> 16, expert leader, set armor
- Knight of the Stone: set weapons
- Brangwen: mr 15 -> 17
- Hanif: set weapon
- Ghoul Baron: ap 7 -> 12, set armor
- Raterik: set enc 4, changed weapon, set black steel helmet, black steel full plate, black steel kite shield
- Hildegard: att 17 -> 16, def 18 -> 17, enc 2 -> 3, set weapons, armor
- Barthulf: changed weapons, set armor
- Niklatu: expertleader, set ap 12
- Orokestes: str 15 -> 16, set weapon
- Caractor: set weapon, added pillagebonus 25
- Angelique d'Armand: set armors
- Ramshead: removed awe, set weapon
- Panicratos: set weapon
- Farbaute: set weapons
- Sporsnjall: def 14 -> 16, set weapons
- Ainra: removed fire 2
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July 21st, 2005, 04:33 AM
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Re: new mod: stronger national heroes
Quote:
Oversway said edited by Turin, the stuff in brackets)
Compared to 1.1, looks like
- Added an image for the mod (very nice)
- Rago: set weapons(2 evening stars)
- Marius Lorca: reinvig 4 -> 3, set weapon (sword of swiftness)
- Master of the Games: reinvig 2 -> 1, set weapon and armor, set poor leader (no changes except I had to clear him to give him gloves of the gladiator)
- Hierogallus: str, att 15 -> 16, expert leader, set armor(got full plate mail)
- Knight of the Stone: set weapons(got sword of sharpness)
- Brangwen: mr 15 -> 17
- Hanif: set weapon(this is the member of the third tier, got poison dagger)
- Ghoul Baron: ap 7 -> 12, set armor(got blacksteel outfit)
- Raterik: set enc 4, changed weapon, set black steel helmet, black steel full plate, black steel kite shield(got star of heroes)
- Hildegard: att 17 -> 16, def 18 -> 17, enc 2 -> 3, set weapons, armor(got enchanted spear, shield and blacksteel helmet)
- Barthulf: changed weapons, set armor(see raterik)
- Niklatu: expertleader, set ap 12
- Orokestes: str 15 -> 16, set weapon(actually itīs pathos, got sword of sharpness)
- Caractor: set weapon, added pillagebonus 25(got implementator axe)
- Angelique d'Armand: set armors(just got a helmet)
- Ramshead: removed awe, set weapon( got enchanted spear)
- Panicratos: set weapon (enchanted spear)
- Farbaute: set weapons (axe of sharpness)
- Sporsnjall: def 14 -> 16, set weapons (enchanted spear)
- Ainra: removed fire 2
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thanks for doing my work oversway! . Some things to clarify:
Ramshead still has awe2, my modding lines were redundant. Pathos got strength buffed from 15 to 16, not orokestes. Ainra still has fire 3, I just removed the change on the spiderform, since it wasnīt needed.(she has 2f2d2e in spiderform)
I consider the mod to be pretty much finished now, unless you make some nice suggestions  . The only heroes, which I still find pretty boring are hierogallus and niklatu. Maybe I will replace hierogallus with a sentient hydra and Niklatu with a Predator race type hero.
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