OT: Stupid Nazis

[Starhawk]

Yeah black power movements disgust me to especailly in this day and age I've even talked with a few African Americans who said that these guys as well as the "gangasta rap" communities are bringing racial relations back fifty years and it's true.

I hate to say it but when I was working at Wendy's it was turning me racist because I had to deal with those black people that speak ghetto call each other (the N word) and acted like the black folks that I worked with that spoke proper english and hated "that word" were all "Just wanting to be white" and crap.

And besides that if you've ever been in an "all black" kind of neighborhood or even workplace you'll feel that as a group they are far more racist than any "all white" places I've ever been too and they also dragged my opinion of the entire black race down to the point where I was becoming a person I didn't like anymore and to where even today a lot of times when on the news I hear about a shooting the first thing that pops into my mind is "Damn ghetto trash shooting each other again" which is terrible because what if it's just some poor guy that was in the wrong place at the wrong time it might not have been gang bangers but still that's the first thought in my mind.
And as least you can say of hte white power movements they don't destroy their own neighborhoods to protest "The Black Man's opression" like those race riots back in the 90s where those moronic black power movements riled up so much discontent that those idiots burned their own neighborhoods which just made me laugh my *** off it's like "Yeah that's a great way to show your our equals, burn your own damn neighborhoods and buisnesses" lol

And actually the African problem is not "black power" so much as "black ignorance" and 'Tribal warfare" how do you think the tripartide (sp?) first got to power, the white people there looked around and realized that the bulk of the black populace was so busy killing it's self that it was not paying attention and thus they moved in fast and took advantage of the situation and had it not been for UN presure I can almsot gurantee that it would still be in place to this day because the Africans are too busy wtih killing themselves to notice when they are being oppressed.


I think if we were smart we'd let the black power and white power movements get locked into a small area and let them bash each other's heads in because until they are all gone the racial tention in this country will just keep getting worse.

I mean it infuriates me to that if I say one comment about one specific black person I get called a racist yet on TV I get to hear people calling whites "Honky's and crackers" and they don't get in the least bit of trouble.

[Fyron]

This is going to far... Lets all back away from this conversation now.

[Will]

Starhawk said:
And as least you can say of hte white power movements they don't destroy their own neighborhoods to protest "The Black Man's opression" like those race riots back in the 90s where those moronic black power movements riled up so much discontent that those idiots burned their own neighborhoods which just made me laugh my *** off it's like "Yeah that's a great way to show your our equals, burn your own damn neighborhoods and buisnesses" lol

If "those race riots back in the 90s" you're refering to are the LA Riots, I think you need to read up on the history behind it a little more. The riots only superficially seemed to be racial; while it was mostly black and hispanics that participated, there were a number of whites as well. What they all had in common was they were poor, had no jobs because of the downturned economy, and lived in an area largely neglected by the powers-that-be in LA. The riots were an expression of anger over the verdict in the Rodney King trial, where four LAPD officers were acquitted of wrongdoing in their beating of a black man (and IIRC, they were acquitted in a trial held in a mostly white and asian upper middle class town in the Valley). It was the straw that broke the camels back, to use the cliche. There were also a few other incidents leading up to the riots that fueled malcontent.

To say that is was a "black power" thing is simply flat out wrong. It was really more of a thing of poor people lashing out at the more affluent and people in power. "Burning their own neighborhoods" might seem like a stupid thing to you. And it is, but not for the reasons you think. It's stupid because it's a senseless act of destruction, but there is nothing about South Central, Watts, etc. that these people "owned". And that's part of the cause for them lashing out.

[Atrocities]

I WILL REPEAT IT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUEMENT, WHAT DO YOU SAY WE JUST LET THIS ONE GO PEOPLE

[Phoenix-D]

Atrocities said:
I WILL REPEAT IT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUEMENT, WHAT DO YOU SAY WE JUST LET THIS ONE GO PEOPLE

You do realize that every time you do that the topic gets bumped to the top of the list, right?

[Hugh Manatee]

yeah, I think we should amend the first amendment so that is someone says something to piss you off you get to take a free shot at their balls/ovaries in a roshambo like duel. 10 paces, turn and PUNT! No permenant damage, just a good clear shot at their balls/ovaries, they can block it if they see it coming, and they can retaliate and you can block it if you're quick.

If there were some kind of consequenses for "free" speach that is likely to piss someone off then we'd all be better off.

Also if a kid who is not our kid is in a checkout like is shrieking, we should be able to beat them mersilessly.

[AMF]

Sorry, all, for yet another post, which will not help the desire to end this thread. But some things cannot go by without being challenged. Gotta speak the truth to power, if ya know what I mean.

So here goes:

Starhawk said:
<snipped>... if you looked at Germany the Nazi party gained power because the vast majority of Europeans are white yes, but also because in a way they rebuilt the German infrastructure they made Germany powerful again and they appealed not to "White pride" but GERMAN pride and GERMAN heritage as their rallying point, and as they "Liberated other Germanic nations" from the "oppression" of other countries the Germans and even hundreds of thousands of others from other surrounding nations were in a way pleased to see their "original" heritage being honored again and rising to power again after so long.
And the Modern "Neo-Nazis" obviously have never studied history as
1. They claim to be socialist while the real Nazi's who they claim to emulate were Fascist
2. They are an undisciplined bunch of idiots while the original Nazis were strict and regimented to keep the people in line.
3. The modern "Nazis" go around yelling Zeig Heil (sp?) which I've been told means "Victory and Welfare" about thirty times in a row and stomping and throwing a half assed Nazi salute.
While you'd only ever hear the real Nazis say it a handful of times in any given "ralley" much like we'd say "God bless America" or in the case of Brits "God Save the Queen" nobody would be stomping or shouting it like idiots either. I just find that funny is all.

Starhawk, with all due respect, I think that you sound like a person who is trying to justify their ethno-nationalist beleifs, without actually understanding that they are racist. Plus, there are a number of fundamental errors that others have pointed out ("national socialist" is fascist, not socialist, etc...)

An educated opinion, is much more powerful than an uneducated one. I would encourage you, in all honesty, to do some research before making claims such as those you have made above. Start with neo-nazi websites, and then go to www.splcenter.org and so forth...

Finally i have to say it here to risk offending anyone or sounding a little racist if I do sound racist I'm sorry but here it is anyway.
The vast majority of countries who's main populace is black (I'm damn well not saying "African American" because there are a BUNCH of countries who aren't american but are black) are dirt poor and too busy dealing with "Drugs, tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing" and other crap to cause any world wide trouble I mean have you looked at Africa lately....two words "Hell Hole" not to mention primitive people who still beleive in zombies for crying out loud!

The majority of people in the US apparently belive that Armageddon is around the corner, that these are the last days, that the AntiChrist walks the land, and pretty soon Christ will Rise again etc...And, heck, the whole new age, crystal, tarot card reading, reiki, all that stuff is just as unfounded and silly as "zombie-ism"...and I bet a whole lote more people in the States beleive in that than Africans beleive in Zombies.

(I personally am NOT racist my best friend for a long time was a black guy I knew, I've asked out a Chinese girl and I've had several black friends)

from Webster's:
Racism:
1) The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2) Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Sorry, Starhawk, I think you are a racist. By claiming that a group of people exhibit characteristics such as "primitive" unable to run their own affairs, live in hell hoels, etc...based solely on their skin color, is fundamentally a racist viewpoint.

But race wise let's look at it from a standoffish point of view if your want to stick to which "races" are more likely to cause a world war it's going to be white's and Asians because if you even look at Neighborhoods within the US white and Asian majority neighborhoods have far less crime then black neighborhoods not to mention the ghetto and the fact that Africa is basically one giant ghetto for the most part.

I suggest going to Africa before making these types of statements. At least educate yourself a bit more. Also look up the meaning of the word ghetto - I think you just mean "screwed up". Having spent quite a lot of time in Africa, I can tell you that the vast majority of people there are wonderful people who are trying to do their best in awful situations. Tribalism and corruption have screwed them, its' true, but to claim that becuase they are black they can't get their act together, is basically racist.

Eventually, I beleive that you will become more educated - I think you said earlier you're 17 years old, right? Perhaps after going to university you'll be exposed to different viewpoints and ideas, and get away from what has clearly been a very limited set of experiences. Broadening one's mind is one of the most important and illuminating things one can do for oneself.

Yours,

Alarik