obat06: France

narwan · #1 June 26th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Don't be sorry, I already assumed there was a difference!

For the coax weapon it's indeed tricky to decide what value to use if the unit was equiped with both AP and sabot. But for primairy weapons there shouldn't be a problem to differentiate.

Let's see if anyone can come up with some penetration specs for the two ammo types (for both the 693 and 811).

narwan

PlasmaKrab · #2 June 26th, 2005, 06:09 PM

(Nearly) got it!

Got some tech spefs for latest tungsten-core AP-T 20mm ammo for 20*102mm gun M621, while the M693 uses 20*139mm cartridge!

However, this 20*139 cartridge is also used by Rheinmetall's Rh-202, in the US M-139 and Oerlikon's KAD/HS830, which you can all find in the oobs. I guess the pen. specs should be nearly the same. Barrel length shouldn't vary wildly, and I'd the ammo is NATO standard!

So maybe this can elp. And I'll try to extract some more info from there:
http://www.giat-industries.fr/asp/us/feu.asp

Cheers, and good hunt!

Plasma

SCAJolly · #3 June 26th, 2005, 08:50 PM

ICON error: Unit 055, AMX-30 Roland ('86-2020). While the Roland for 'xx-'85 (#54) displays the correct icon during play, the most modern one does not. It's icon features the chassis without the turret, as well as three men loading the "gun" (as seen on most field gun-pieces). Strange thing is that both these units use the same icons.
Could someone doublecheck this one for me?

Mobhack · #4 June 26th, 2005, 09:25 PM

Quote:

SCAJolly said:
ICON error: Unit 055, AMX-30 Roland ('86-2020). While the Roland for 'xx-'85 (#54) displays the correct icon during play, the most modern one does not. It's icon features the chassis without the turret, as well as three men loading the "gun" (as seen on most field gun-pieces). Strange thing is that both these units use the same icons.
Could someone doublecheck this one for me?

Shows the correct icon for me - in green or desert conditions. (Tried vs FRG and Egypt in 86). Ditto in Mobhack as for the game.

Have you loaded SHP files from another source?
Is this in a scenario? A modified OOB?

Cheers
Andy

SCAJolly · #5 June 26th, 2005, 09:38 PM

Weird.

Self-made scenario, no tweaks whatsoever. When I tried the units this time, they all looked fine. Perhaps winSP turns a bit erratic the same way DOSSP did, with that file you had to delete every now and then?

I actually took a screenshot of this, but it turned out black and mushy.

narwan · #6 June 28th, 2005, 09:02 AM

Some formation errors(?):

The mech legion and mot legion companies don't have apc's or trucks for the HQ squad (formations 100, 105, 111).

The RIMA companies (198, 204) are supposed to have platoons with RIMA trucks/VLRA's according to the OOB editor but when generating a battle they come with platoons without transport while the HQ does have a transport. Not a big problem since you can replace these platoons with loose RIMA platoons that do have transport. And it gives you the option of having a RIMA company without transport; but since the formation doesn't appear in the editor I thought I'd mention it.

Narwan

Listy · #7 June 28th, 2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

SCAJolly said:
ICON error: Unit 055, AMX-30 Roland ('86-2020). While the Roland for 'xx-'85 (#54) displays the correct icon during play, the most modern one does not. It's icon features the chassis without the turret, as well as three men loading the "gun" (as seen on most field gun-pieces). Strange thing is that both these units use the same icons.
Could someone doublecheck this one for me?

Soundsl iek someone's made into an area Sam class weapon. those don't have turrets, but do have crew. you need a sperate Icon for that including the turret. I made that mistake when playing around with the Raipier SAM.