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June 29th, 2005, 05:27 PM
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Ulm becomes the superpower
Whoa, why all the anti-Pan (i.e 'rotten Pan') stuff? The war with Mictlan has been a war of attrition and raiding, not a cakewalk. Many independant provinces still exist in the West because Pan has been constantly at war and doesn't have any forces to spare to take them.
Pan will likely be destroyed by the Ulm/Mictlan alliance fairly quickly and without any significant damage to Ulm.
If you all allow Ulm to take the West in addition to his already strong position, Ulm will more than likely be unstoppable.
The Ulm/Mictlan rear lies open in the East! Take advantage of the open path now or Ulm will turn on you with overwhelming force in the not to distant future !!!
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June 30th, 2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
I agree with Jeffr.
-If- I was able to conquer most of Pangea with little losses and then turn on the rest of the world, I would be neigh unstoppable. But, Jeffr and I have had only one battle so far (in his dominion) where I was fighting 44 hp white centaurs (because of Gift of Health) and I got absolutely hammered.
So, as soon as I manage to take a province of his and start on my way to unstoppability, I will let you guys know.
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June 30th, 2005, 03:01 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
Hm at least my moloch seems to work vs. your brutal longbow+white centaur combo  .
Atm the 2 superpowers are Ulm and Ryleh while the other 4 nations are weakened too much by their constant wars.
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June 30th, 2005, 03:11 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
I haven't seen the latest turn yet (that's what I get for looking here first and ruining the surprise), but it sounds like good news from CUnknown and bad news from Boron! I went from "yeah" to "oh, crap".
Boron, did you fly your Moloch somewhere and attack me? Was he alone or did he have help? Damn, I knew something bad was going to happen. Damn, damn, damn 
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June 30th, 2005, 04:36 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
Hehe, you're gonna love it, jeffr...
You do realize, Boron, that me and CU just fought a long, tiring, and ultimately futile war. I'd say, combined with the eternal war with Abysia, I have far more war-turns (I demand double the respect for the turns when I was ganked!  ) than anyone: If that gets me into the superpower-class (replacing Pangaea who has only, what, 4 capitals and 50+ provinces), all the more power to me!
EDIT: And weren't you ready to throw in the towel against the horrible Pan just a turn ago yourself? Since when am I scarier than him?
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June 30th, 2005, 05:52 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
Quote:
Jurri said:
EDIT: And weren't you ready to throw in the towel against the horrible Pan just a turn ago yourself? Since when am I scarier than him?
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No offense vs. Ryleh and the fishs  .
My reasoning is just if i would play ryleh i would have at least 100 clams now probably. If this is true you are definitely the strongest nation now  .
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June 30th, 2005, 09:54 PM
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Re: Ulm becomes the superpower
Boron, I have to protest you calling me and Ryleh "superpowers" when another faction (that shall remain nameless) has like half the freaking map and two powerful globals up. Jeffr is by far the most powerful right now. There's no way I'd be able to beat him by myself, and honestly, I think he might be able to hold us both off, at least for a while.
If you faught that last battle in his dominion you would have lost, even with your god. There's no way he can be invaded seriously until Gift of Health is dispelled, and even then he can put it right back up. He's got three capitals, his gem income is great.
Jeffr must be stopped, then I can worry about Jurri and you guys can worry about me and/or Jurri. However, I'm likely to be in shambles from fighting Jeffr, even if I win. I have to 1) beat Jeffr, not even close to a guarentee. then 2) beat him in good enough shape to hold off the rest of the world. That seems extremely unlikely. In fact, why am I doing this??? I feel like I'm working for Jurri but I don't see my any other real option. Without Boron to help against Jeffr, it would be impossible to beat him.
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