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October 2nd, 2001, 07:51 PM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
quote: Originally posted by raynor:
At one point, someone had suggested making the Warp Point creation ships one-shot ships like the SM ships that destroy stars. Granted, you pay a huge maintenance cost for SM ships already. What effect do you think it would have on the game if the SM components were non-repairable?
I have forgotten now. Did they require that SM components have to be repaired at a space station?
What? So "this component is destroyed after use" actually means "this component is DAMAGED after use but can be repaired" ?!
Is this damage repaired in a single turn like other damaged components?
This makes a HUGE difference in my current game (my first long-term PBW game). I've just now researched Warp-point manipulation, but was putting it off as the ships were going to take about 2.4 years to build. But if I can just repair the component, then WHO CARES how expensive they are to build, they can be reused indefinitely.
Granted I'm coming at this from the other angle, but in my opinion reducing them to true single-shot ships would make a HUGE difference.
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October 2nd, 2001, 11:46 PM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
Only Emergency movement pods and Emergency supply pods require a spaceyard to repair.
You could add the same ability to SM components, thus forcing them to be brought back to a Spaceyard for replacement.
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October 3rd, 2001, 01:07 AM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
"Is this damage repaired in a single turn like other damaged components?"
Yes. In SE4, there is NO SUCH THING as a damaged component. It's 100% or gone. But unlike space yards, repair yards repair a set number of components per turn, no matter how expensive the component is.
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October 3rd, 2001, 01:16 AM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
quote: Originally posted by suicide_junkie:
Only Emergency movement pods and Emergency supply pods require a spaceyard to repair.
You could add the same ability to SM components, thus forcing them to be brought back to a Spaceyard for replacement.
What's stopping you building a spaceyard ship with a WP opener or closer? It only costs you 500kt of space! In that case I would through in an emergency populsion pod too!
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October 3rd, 2001, 01:41 AM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
"Only"?
You're talking a total of at least 600kt there. In other words, you'll need a Battleship sized ship just to make it, to say nothing of having decent speed and defenses.
Battleships are also the first ship with major speed drop, and the third to LAST ship size.
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October 3rd, 2001, 03:34 AM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
quote: Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"Only"?
You're talking a total of at least 600kt there. In other words, you'll need a Battleship sized ship just to make it, to say nothing of having decent speed and defenses.
Battleships are also the first ship with major speed drop, and the third to LAST ship size.
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By it works. As to the speed I'm pretty happy with the DNs which make up the core of my fleet. And defense? The best defense is a bunch of other ships. Putting an insane amount of armour or shield or even weapons on one ship is not going to help a single bit, especially when you have the AI fighting for you in strategic combat.
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October 3rd, 2001, 04:32 AM
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Re: Stellar Manipulation Suggestion for 1.42
Dreads are two speed slower than a BC. BBs are one slower. That, incidently, is as much as the 1000 racial cost trait Propulsion Experts..
Why do you need protection?
Targeting strategy: Weakest, Does Not have Weapons, Nearest. Your SM ship now becomes target #1..
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