Alliegance Subverters

[Slaughtermeyer]

Has anyone been able to get subverter ships to fire at point blank range in simultaneous games? I've tried it a couple times by giving the ship point blank as primary orders and also putting it into a fleet with point blank orders but it still fired the subverters at long range.

[Slaughtermeyer]

Has anybody been able to get subverters to fire at point blank range in simultaneous games? I've tried a couple times with a ship that had point blank orders and then put the ship into a fleet with point blank orders but it still fired at long range.

[Suicide Junkie]

If your ships have enough speed to close to point blank in one turn from out-of-range, then they will fire at point blank.

AIs always fire everything that has any chance to hit as soon as possible, and never save up long reload weapons for the right moment.

If you made a range-reducing mount, then you could force the AI to close to point blank before firing the subverter.

[Slaughtermeyer]

[quote]Originally posted by suicide_junkie:


AIs always fire everything that has any chance to hit as soon as possible, and never save up long reload weapons for the right moment.
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It sounds like point blank, optimal range, and maximum range have no relevance or difference whatsoever in simultaneous games.

[Phoenix-D]

Oh, they do. Well, not for weapons like the Subverter or Rocket Pods, but for everything else.. because they will determine what the ship does AFTER it fires the shot.

Do you REALLY want your CSM armed ships closing with a Ripper Beam armed planet for example? Point blank, they probably will. Max range? Not likely.

Phoenix-D

[Slaughtermeyer]

Maybe before the shot is fired too? If a ship has for example point blank orders will it fire as soon as it moves into range even if it has movement left over or will it use all of its movement for that turn before firing to get as close as possible? It's already logical that a ship with max. range would fire as soon as it moved into range even if it had movement points left which it could use to get closer, I assume that's the way simultaneous combat works for max. range.

[Suicide Junkie]

If the ship is already in weapons range, it will tend to fire, then move.
If the ship is not in weapons range, it will use all of its movement, then fire.

If some weapons are in range, and some aren't, then I think the ship will move, then fire, but I'm not sure.

If ships are in a fleet, the leader will do the above, then the wingmen will move, then the wingmen fire.