War.... (Historical: 9/11 discussion thread)

[Kadste]

This is the most incredible event of my life, hell all of our lives! I am Canadian, but I work a lot in the US and I have many friends and relatives there and I still feel like it is some terrible nightmare. My heart is burdened with the extreme loss suffered by our best friends. There are no two countries in the world like us. We share so many common interests, beliefs and feelings that sometimes you cannot tell us apart. When I travel to the States, one of the biggest compliments that I receive is blending in. I feel at home in the States, just like in Canada. It is my second home.

Reasonable people do not do this. The cowardly bastards who did this will probably not have the balls to even admit it. It is one thing to make war against a countries military, but to attack innocent civilians is the lowest, most despicable act anyone could perpetuate.

Terrorism has been with us for many centuries and we have learned that it solves nothing. Acts like this against anyone is not acceptable and must be punished.

Most people will regard this as an act of terrorism. But is was not. It was an act of war. And as such, it must be treated as such.

Democracies like the US are very susceptible to acts like this. In a FREE country, individual freedoms and rights are fundamental. The dangers to a free country have always been balanced in favor of the individual rights and individual freedoms and as such an act like this can and obviously did happen. What will change now? Are we prepared to make the necessary changes to protect us against another act?

I travel through many airports throughout North America very frequently. While security is generally good, it is not as good as in countries that have suffered. In Canada, some leeway is given to members of religious sects to carry their ceremonial daggers on Canadian flights. I wonder if this the same in the US? The weapons were probably a the size of a knife, anything larger would be detected.

It is very hard for me to express myself now, my emotions are getting the better of me.


My heart goes out to all Americans,

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[disabled]

I hope their deaths don't go unrepaid by the full might of the combined forces of the United States.

[ June 13, 2003, 07:02: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

[Lord Kodos]

im from new york... my prayers for all who died in this terrible stupid attack i hope they all are punished by the fury of the sleeper

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Some rule some serve
some declare wars some
fight them
i declare wars i rule
you serve you fight
wars.....
we are not the same.....
never forget that..

[Puke]

post deleted. i should pick my fights, and this is the wrong one at the wrong time. I will have to agree to disagree with Geo on this one.

indeed, this is a day that future generations will ask us about when they talk about it in school. That, and the Berlin wall. Well, for me anyhow. Those of you who lived thru Korea and Viet Nam might have a few more stories to tell.

[This message has been edited by Puke (edited 12 September 2001).]

[DocShane]

I got on PBW just to escape the day and return to some level of normalcy. I couldn't resist reading this posting, however. It has to be the largest number of Posts in a single day on a single topic on Shrapnel.

Someone on TV compared this to Pearl Harbor. It is an inciting event, but much bigger than that. Pearl Harbor was a vicious attack on our military at an off-mainland base. 2,300 died. We anticipated we would eventually be at war with Japan, we just wanted to stay out of it as long as possible. What happened today was magnitudes larger. It was a direct attack on civilians on our mainland. Probably in large excess of 23,000 died. We have been engaged in diplomacy with various nations plagued by terrorism, just wanting to remain distanced. In both cases, they awoke a great sleeping beast.

As a physician, I agree with Hadrian and Lazarus. I do not want to be alarmist but this may only be a prelude of things to come. The perpetrators of this trajedy are probably also able to instigate biological terrorism. This is an indiscriminate killer of many more, even those of us seeming protected in the heartland of America. The military is prepared to defend themselves against such a threat, yet there is no good defense nor adequate preparedness among the civilian population. The weapons of choice would be anthrax, smallpox, plague, botulism, E coli, salmonella, cholera, and Ebola. The mechanisms to deliver it to the population are varied: aerosolized sprays, contaminated water, tainted food, infected human carriers. By the time it is recognized, the population will be widely infected and many dead.

May the dead and those family members who have lost or are missing loved ones find some peace in the face of this unprecedented trajedy. May God strengthen and repair our broken spirit. It is to all Americans affected by this disaster that I dedicate my signature:

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The Good Doc

"Henceforth I spread confident wings to space
I fear no barrier of crystal or glass;
I cleave the heavens and soar to the infinite.
And while I rise from my own globe to others
And penetrate even further through the eternal field,
That which others saw from afar, I leave far behind me."

-Giordano Bruno
"On the Infinite Universe and Worlds," 1584

[Phoenix-D]

quote:

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how the hell is someone going to get a sword past airport security

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Very easily. Ever been strip-searched? Didn't think so. So tape it to yourself. What about the metal detectors, you ask? Proper material, they won't be set off. (a knife or very short sword.. or gun.. is more likey).

Second, why didn't they do anything? Well, they didn't want to die, and they more than likely has no idea what was about to happen.

Phoenix-D

[Phoenix-D]

This is friggin sick.
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/store/pr...68594&zoom=yes

In case someone gets an attack of sense, what this is is a t-shirt.

On the front:
"I crashed a plane into the world trade center"
On the back:
"and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

Phoenix-D