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Old September 20th, 2001, 09:27 PM
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Notice how the Pakistani leader doesn't say things like:
1) The bombing was wicked, a sin against Allah, and would still have been so even if only adult Americans had been killed.
2) We need to do all that we can to bring bin Laden to justice because it is the morally correct thing for us to do, as an Islamic country. No bribe from the US is necessary or wanted.
3) If the Taliban are trying to protect bin Laden, then we should have never befriended them. If they are unable to do the right thing because bin Laden is too powerful, then we should use Muslim troops to liberate them.

My question is:
When will we start hearing things like the above spoken loudly and forcefully from prominent Muslim leaders outside of the West?
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Old September 20th, 2001, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: OT: War Bill, write your congress......

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If the Afghan people do not force their government to hand over bin Laden's entire organization, then they are NOT innocent bystanders.
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Just ignorant ones. TV is Banned in Afghanistan. Radios are rare. I don't know about newspapers (or what the levels of literacy are) but I shouldn't think they're too liberal. Add to that the fact that most afghanistanis are too busy starving to death to worry about America or NATO or Bin Laden or getting bombed...

They've had about 30 years of war and 3 years of drought, can you blame them for being disinterested in international politics?

I don't know if it's true, but I heard that something like a quarter of aghanistanis are expected to die of starvation by Christmas.

Don't want to flame anyone with this post, but I really do feel the Afghanistani population are getting a rough deal here. We've had enough misery.

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Agreed, as in most countries like this, there is a difference between the population in general and the nutzo ruling party.
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Which is why I think we should assassinate their leaders and topple their governments, but not wage a ground war or engage in large scale bombing.
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What you've asked for basiclly requires a ground war. In war, of any sort, civilains get hurt. The only difference is in how many.. and this type of war is very, very messy.

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Sorry for quoting myself, but you'll see why.

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Originally posted by dmm:
Notice how the Pakistani leader doesn't say things like:
EDITED OUT TO SAVE SPACE. SEE MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE BELOW.

My question is:
When will we start hearing things like the above spoken loudly and forcefully from prominent Muslim leaders outside of the West?




Three cheers for the Saudis!!! They, at least, have finally had the guts to do the right thing, in public. See this NYTimes article: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/25/in...5CND-STAN.html

I was very encouraged by this, and I hope that many other Muslim countries (and clerics in those countries) will follow suit. In a situation like this, I would love to have to eat crow.
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That NYT site requires a login now.
Too much trouble to create a spam account for that kind of thing. Would you mind quoting the relevant text?
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