Corrected UK OOB

[Listy]

Me again, with Questions this time.

Looking at the challenger 2, and I was wondering where the version with the add on armour is?

My other Question is concerning the Vickers HMG. It's only got a HEK of 5, the Same as a Bren gun, and a Vickers has surely more firepower. There was one account where one gun managed to fire 5 Million rounds of .303 non-stop..

[DRG]

Listy said:
Me again, with Questions this time.
My other Question is concerning the Vickers HMG. It's only got a HEK of 5, the Same as a Bren gun, and a Vickers has surely more firepower. There was one account where one gun managed to fire 5 Million rounds of .303 non-stop..

Yes but it doesn't dump them all in the same area in 3 minutes, does it? That's what increases the HEK number not the fact it can fire marathon shoots. It's not a Gatling gun. It's a nice slow but steady HMG but doesn't have a very high volume of fire in any given 2 or three minute segment and yes, you can fire it all day and all night but that doesn't make it inherently deadlier in any given "game turn". In fact, it's less deadly because of it's slow rate of fire but that slow rate of fire allows it to shoot for hours but that kind of endurance doesn't count of much in the game

Don

[Listy]

**shrug**

All true.. but six minutes of non-stop Vickers fire might be a different prospect to a 30 rnd Bren gun mag.

At least I know someone's reading all this stuff I keep finding

[DRG]

Listy said:
**shrug**

All true.. but six minutes of non-stop Vickers fire might be a different prospect to a 30 rnd Bren gun mag.

Why assume the Vickers fires continually or the Bren Gunner only has one magazine?

Don

[Listy]

You know what I mean..

A vickers has 200 rounds ready to send down range. The bren gunner has to reload, and re-aim...

[DRG]

Yes, and the Vickers has a higher accuracy and it also has a longer range so although the end result is a "5" HEK for both guns they do not have the exact same effect in the game. It's just one number they have in common. All the numbers work together it's not all just about one of them

Don

[Listy]

I know, just bringing up something that seemed Like it could have been a mistake.

EDIT: Heared back from about the Armour, It's still restricted. I'd guess if we treated it like the stuff from the CR1 it wouldn't be too far out.

[Mobhack]

Listy said:
Me again, with Questions this time.

Looking at the challenger 2, and I was wondering where the version with the add on armour is?

My other Question is concerning the Vickers HMG. It's only got a HEK of 5, the Same as a Bren gun, and a Vickers has surely more firepower. There was one account where one gun managed to fire 5 Million rounds of .303 non-stop..

What "uparmoured challenger 2". Never heard of it. Cites? (UK MoD, Vickers etc ??). Pictures?. Stats?. Numbers?. Local one-off engineering job or official Mod programme?.

Or - are you getting confused with the uparmoured CR1 (Challenger 1+ in the OOB) as used in Operation Granby ?.


Cheers
Andy

[Listy]

Very big photo, from the MOD site.
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/i..._basrah_hr.jpg

Up Armoured panels on the front and side hulls.
BTW: Last time we had a vechicle ID lesson I out socred everyone else... I Like my tanks..


Also are you going to include the very first few CR1 with a 50 cal Coax instead of the Electronic Bullet Chewing box? (IIRC it also had no TI either)

[Mobhack]

Nice picture of what could be any old C2, really. At any rate, it looks just like another CR2 to me.

Cites on the mods, number in service, what the mods were etc?. Is it a local to theatre thing?. i.e. any hard information?.

The pre/early-production CR1 will not be done - too few and too short an availibility to worry about.

Cheers
Andy