OT: Enterprise...What did you think?

ZeroAdunn · #1 September 27th, 2001, 08:36 PM

Once again a trek series falls victim to the three greatest trek failings:

1. Poor direction (the actors aren't necessarily bad but some seens should have been done in another take, poor camera placement, poor direction as a whole)

2. Poor editing (some things were underdramatized, some parts seemed to be missing, and some parts just didn't belong there)

3. Ratings grabbing. (hey we need lots of cursing, half naked females, and some really pointless special effects :P )

All in all though I would say this has the best pottential of all the series. I like the opening credits, I generall don't like when they choose a theme song instead of instrumental, but this one really fits, and adds to the gritty, low tech feel. (the opening credits I think really is an excellent way to show how far we've come and what were up against, unlike other shows, which pretty much just show off the ship)

Excellent crew diversity, though some aren't entirely believable. Excellent captain, finally someone who isn't perfect

Like was said earlier, to much time travel!!

I must say I don't like the ship. Too high tech. Like the outside, looks cool, but again too high tech. The inside: Wide corridors (don't like it, just an opinion, these are better than the standard trek) and everything else looked excellent. Didn't like the use of transporter, this is a big deal, not something to be taken lightly, especially for spirituall beings, brings up a whole can of worms. Would have been great to give its own entire episode.

I'm still gonna watch though. Sorry for the long rant.

Suicide Junkie · #2 September 27th, 2001, 11:20 PM

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and what was up with the plates going off line. Hope they fix the science up in that one. Or does armour go off line???????

I take it this way:
- hull plating is ionized
- particle beams hit; the particles would tend to drain away the ion charge.
- When the officer says the plates are off-line, he just means the plate charge has been depleted, and the "power armor" is normal armor now.

Assuming that ionizing the hull plates has any defensive value, and that the atmosphere of the gas giant dosen't sap the charge faster than the bitty weapons fire.

Deathstalker · #3 September 27th, 2001, 11:27 PM

Except for one little, itty, bitty problem this is the Trek I have been waiting YEARS for...

The good: the ship, the people who actually seem COMFORTABLE in their roles (unlike the 1st season of any startrek series), the 'rustic' look, THE vulcan!!, the doctors wierd smile

(man that was wide!!), the dog!!, the effects....

The BAD: 'PHASE-pistols'????? ISTR that in the first episode of the Original series they were using LASERS!!, Phasers were not invented yet! (Shatner refers to it in one of his books, the day the Enterprise actually got phasers.....think it was one of the recent ones...) Other than that small little quibble I loved the show....Sam...err...I mean Archer was great!

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Coal · #4 September 28th, 2001, 02:20 AM

The 'Phase-pistol' thing could be explained by saying they're an eary experimental Version. They seemed to be normally issued some type of Plasma pistols and rifles. Maybe they went from plasma to phase to lasers to phasers. Some weird political/economical/scientific reason.

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Baal · #5 September 28th, 2001, 04:34 AM

Sheesh people. From the sounds of most of the Posts on here it looks as if we have 10 people right in this forum that could make a better show.

Frankly I am tired of being a critic on everything there is in this world. If you dislike parts of this show don't watch it, or even better, make your own show and prove just how good your show making skills are.

I don't write this to insult, but to say that it is easy to tear down someone elses work and say you could make it better. And I write this to say that many of these little trivialities are stupid to criticize. Phaser, Phase pistol, who really cares what they call them (hell, they could call them Muskets and I wouldn�t care), they are just names. The names really have no part in the technology.

Another small thing that people have mentioned that I would like to address is the musical choice. I think it sets the mood nicely. It's nice to hear some lyrics for once. If I wanted to hear an orchestra I would go listen to one in person.

My point is that there are people who work there butts off to make an entertaining show and I don't think it is our place to cut it apart due to the little things like music, words, or plot line (I thought the time travel was refreshing and not overbearing). After all it is just a show, made to entertain. It was not made to tell history, or teach chemistry.

Although watching a human rub down a Vulcan was very educational (joke).

DISCLAIMER: This post is not directed at any one person, or group of people. It is just an opinion anyway and it�s not as if anyone forced you to read it.

Suicide Junkie · #6 September 28th, 2001, 04:52 AM

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Frankly I am tired of being a critic on everything there is in this world. If you dislike parts of this show don't watch it, or even better, make your own show and prove just how good your show making skills are.

I don't write this to insult, but to say that it is easy to tear down someone elses work and say you could make it better

Hey, its just fun to pick out oddities, and then try to find reasonable explanations for them.

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Transporters: Anybody know where/when they originated? (ie. vulcan tech, or homegrown on earth?)

arthurtuxedo · #7 September 28th, 2001, 05:23 AM

The only major thing I would complain about is the transporter. They should have either introduced it later as an unpredictable, new technology, or better yet, left it out entirely. Also, the Klingons are a bit too stereotyped, but I love the way the Vulcans are given more personality (they actually get angry and raise their voices). Cast seems pretty good, especially Scott Bakula. Not a big fan of the doctor, though, seems too reminiscent of the technobabbling blowhards of other ST shows.