Is Any One Still Playing The STM?

Caduceus · #1 October 13th, 2005, 12:15 PM

Or he may be royalty in disguise.

But, if he has MPD, one can sleep while the other works on shipsets.

narf poit chez BOOM · #2 October 13th, 2005, 01:11 PM

Old joke about a sign seen in a washroom: 'We aim to please. You aim too, please.'

DeKaye · #3 October 13th, 2005, 08:32 PM

My husband and I are playing a STM game at the present. We really enjoy the MOD. I don't plan on ousting it off the old puter' - EVER!!!! I have only played two of the various races so far. It is very exciting learning what each race has that is unique to it's particular culture. I just thought of this - maybe, if possible, it would be cool to have a text document includeed that descibes the races, a brief history, etc, so those of us that don't have every Star trek episode ever made memorized can role play if we choose to.

On STM mod issues. There seems to be a little quark when I update a Shuttle design, It sometimes converts the armor to the armor that is used by troops. This doesn't always happen and it doesn't seem to have a pattern - you know something leading up to this situation occuring. (I am using all the latest patches). Shucks, or is it the other way around .... it may be that the troop armor turns into regular armor when updated. GOSH! My faulty memory!!!! Since there is no pattern to this behavior, I can't check it out to see. Hope you can figure it out. It isn't a big deal though. It usually comes up with the warning that you can only have one componet of this type and you just have to remove it and add the right component.

And .... maybe this is not a problem but the way the AI has been programed for the race UFP. They are not friendly at all and are always attacking me. I have been the Tholians and the Andorians. Is this a built in response to the races I have chosen?

I think that's it for my issues. I only say something because you ask and want to make the game better. I think it is wonderfully done. You sure put a lot of work into it. Again, thank you and all those that contributed to it's creation.

Fuzzie

PS: On a side note - for all those that have created MOD's and ship sets for SEIV - thank you so much from all of us untalented and lazy folks! :} You have truly made our gaming experience exceptionally enjoyable. I don't think I'll ever get bored.

Atrocities · #4 October 13th, 2005, 09:41 PM

Hello,

Thanks for the bug reports.

The Armor issue is one that is a bug with SEIV itself..

If I had it to do all over again the shuttle system would be completely revamped. What happened was that there was not going to be any fighters in the game, only shuttles. But people wanted to have fighters so they had to be put back in. This is when the armor bug appeared. The game sometime, mainly with AI, will ignor restrictions and often do what it pleases when it damn well pleases to do it.

The friendly AI... that is a long standing bug with SEIV in general. The political system of the game is, well its non exsitant. I believe I have them set to the friendly setting, but being a human player the other AI will always turn on you.

I would love to see Aaron fix the political system of the game over most other bugs but I doubt that will ever happen.

Any ways I am glad that you like the mod, we aim to please.

(Me, Myself, and I)

wilhil · #5 October 13th, 2005, 09:56 PM

by the way, to add to what I said before, as you gave the nice response "we aim to please"!

to tell you the truth, SEIV on its own is a really, really good game, I love it, but frankly, there are a few better games, and what I like is on shows like BSG, or especially shown on st

S9, the epic space fights with hundreds of ships!

the default game can only have 200 ships max per team, and resources are horrible with the planets being small, I think the game is great, but this just limits it slightly, the star trek mod, I just think this adds so much to it, and with the STM, I think that it is one of the best games out there.

the only thing I would of liked to see to make it any better would have to be higher tech levels and multi tech requirements, I have to say, from the proportions mod, this is one thing I really like, for example you can raise tech in one area, then going any further requires another one... It just really adds some extra fun, but to tell you the truth, adding it now would probably be wrong after being so used to how it is.

anyway, all I can really say is keep it up, and I cant wait to see what you do for SEV, I cant wait to play star trek mod on that

douglas · #6 October 13th, 2005, 10:02 PM

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wilhil said:
the default game can only have 200 ships max per team

That's a setting in game setup that can go as high as 20000. It's just the default value for it that's 200, and you can change that in settings.txt without affecting compatibility with anything.

wilhil · #7 October 13th, 2005, 10:53 PM

sorry, I didnt mean to sound stupid there, I know you can change it, but with planets storing less facilitys, you have to have fewer facilitys to get resources, and basically it is a slower game... usually, I was just trying to say how much I like STM due to the fact that everything works so well together!.... ahh, I wont go on much more! I just like it!

DeKaye · #8 October 13th, 2005, 11:44 PM

Thanks for explaining these things to me.

Atrocities said:
"The friendly AI... that is a long standing bug with SEIV in general. The political system of the game is, well its non exsitant. I believe I have them set to the friendly setting, but being a human player the other AI will always turn on you.I would love to see Aaron fix the political system of the game over most other bugs but I doubt that will ever happen."

It is a very difficult thing to make an AI that can mimic human behavior on a rather simple scale - without all kinds of programming, computers, and advanced technology. The games AI is okay considering the platform it is performing on. There are so many "flexible" elements in SEIV, I am amazed at what the AI can do (this is coming from a person that does not play many games and does not know much about programming, so my comments may be uninformed ones). SEIV is not like chess where the AI has a finite number of moves it can make. I would hate to see the actual number that represents the value of possibilities for every possible move and descision that needs to be made while playing SEIV. I know it would be an outstanding number. I bet it is very very hard to come up with an AI to do this any justice.

Maybe someday it will be possible to do on a game that would still be affordable and played on a computer that the average person can obtain.

Atrocities · #9 October 14th, 2005, 12:02 AM

The problem with multi-tech requirements is that they don't really work all that well in SEIV. There is no way to know that something is a multi-tech required technology until it appears....having researched the technology. This would be better if we had a tech tree that actually looked like a tech tree such as the one in Gal Civ but we do not.

In the next version of the STM planets will have a higher popluation limit, more space for storage, and facilities.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Fyron · #10 October 14th, 2005, 01:17 AM

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DeKaye said:
On STM mod issues. There seems to be a little quark when I update a Shuttle design, It sometimes converts the armor to the armor that is used by troops.

This is likely caused by overlapping family numbers. It is easily solvable by making sure no components that have different versions for different vehicle types have the same family numbers.