OT: Stop IE

Renegade 13 · #1 October 16th, 2005, 08:19 PM

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wilhil said:
If you are using dial up in 2005, you really only have yourself to blame!

I'm sorry, but this is blatently untrue. Where I live right now, in the center of British Columbia, Canada, outside of a city, all we have access to is dial-up. Satellite: Maybe. Far far too expensive though. Cable: Nope. ADSL: Nope.

And I'm to blame for this...how?

wilhil · #2 October 16th, 2005, 08:34 PM

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Renegade 13 said:

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wilhil said:
If you are using dial up in 2005, you really only have yourself to blame!

I'm sorry, but this is blatently untrue. Where I live right now, in the center of British Columbia, Canada, outside of a city, all we have access to is dial-up. Satellite: Maybe. Far far too expensive though. Cable: Nope. ADSL: Nope.

And I'm to blame for this...how?

yeah sorry for that comment! I can admit when I am wrong, but still, there is a huge percentage of users with broadband now adays as where it is, it is usually cheap and affordable, if you do not have it in your area, Im sorry and retract that comment!

NullAshton · #3 October 16th, 2005, 08:37 PM

Wilhil, Fyron, you people are basically on the same side. You both know that IE has several 'design features' that should be avoided, because of compatibility issues with other browsers. You both also agree that it's smarter to design websites to work on all browsers, and not exclude one browser because of those same 'design features'. Might I ask, then, what it is you are arguing about? Both of you people achieve the same result in the end, a website that will work equally for everyone. Does it really matter what route you use to achieve such ends?

Fyron · #4 October 16th, 2005, 08:42 PM

NA:
As per posts #388024 and #388031, this has pretty much already occured.

wilhil · #5 October 16th, 2005, 08:51 PM

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NullAshton said:
Wilhil, Fyron, you people are basically on the same side. You both know that IE has several 'design features' that should be avoided, because of compatibility issues with other browsers. You both also agree that it's smarter to design websites to work on all browsers, and not exclude one browser because of those same 'design features'. Might I ask, then, what it is you are arguing about? Both of you people achieve the same result in the end, a website that will work equally for everyone. Does it really matter what route you use to achieve such ends?

Because when someone starts I get involved! lol

the argument was mainly about web browsers, not websites... but I do get your point, but still I just am a little annoyed because as I said, I do not mind people advising programs, saying, why not try mozilla, you can do this, maybe if I was using IE 3, and then they said try mozilla, it is much better, but frankly, mozilla vs IE is nothing more than someone pushing their points of view on another, which is no better than propaganda in my books.

The owner of stopie.com is just another microsoft hating person.

I am not to keen of some areas of microsoft, but they have good products, why should I stop using them?

Renegade 13 · #6 October 16th, 2005, 10:26 PM

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wilhil said:
yeah sorry for that comment! I can admit when I am wrong, but still, there is a huge percentage of users with broadband now adays as where it is, it is usually cheap and affordable, if you do not have it in your area, Im sorry and retract that comment!

Thanks!

El_Phil · #7 October 16th, 2005, 10:45 PM

There is really a US law about website access for disabled people? Is it just zoomable, scalable text or something more?

Thermodyne · #8 October 16th, 2005, 10:54 PM

Yep, web content has to be equally accessible to individuals with disabilities. Including blind individuals. It provides the mechanism for these �individuals� to collect civil damages, which is where the legal establishment stepped in. The intent was to improve access; the result has been the skimming of much cash.

Every site has to be completely viewable by adaptive software such as JAWS. It can be a real pain when writing code by hand.

Kamog · #9 October 16th, 2005, 11:24 PM

I've been using Firefox for a year or two now, and I'm very happy with it. I haven't had any problems.

Kevin Arisa · #10 October 16th, 2005, 11:52 PM

I have been using Firefox for a while now. I can't live without tabs. It's really nice and easy to add-on. The skins are fun to play with also. Pop-ups are rare and I didn't even have to install any add-ons for that! I've had no technical problems from it at all which is rare for my hodge-podge PC. I don't hate IE, I just love Firefox.

[EDIT] I just ran my website through the validator. It was full of errors! I had no idea! It's true about Frontpage. Unfortunatly I am horrible at manual HTML coding. Is there a better program for creating websites that won't have so many errors? I want to make sure my site is bug-free.