Sword of the Stars? (New 4x game apparently)

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

Homeworld with a starmap, planetary resource production, industry, terraforming, diplomatic relations, more research, ship design with 3 sections and multiple weapons slots per ship, fuel, random events but yeah, apart from that it's exactly HW with a starmap.

[AAshbery76]

Yeah yeah only three options for diplomacy, no ground battles,no espionage,no planetary buildings,no trade,etc,etc that is what 4x is all about, moo,civ anyone?

This 4x lite type game has been tried before.Hegemonia: Legions of Iron tried the same very,very lightweight 4X with flashy tactical spacebattles.I hope Sword is a good tactical fleet game with starmovement, but it aint going to reinvigorate a sub-genre like their website claims, because it doesn't represent it.Galciv2 will do that fine thankyou,without the dumbing down.

[Iron Giant]

AAshbery76 said:
.Galciv2 will do that fine thankyou,without the dumbing down.

And Galciv wasnt dumbed down? Oh no! My spacey-ship got hit with enemy spacey-beam and went from 3 pegs to 1! Oh no! Better move spacey-ship back to port to get 2 pegs back.

If Sword of the Stars dumbed down some diplomacy but added real tactical combat, I'd call them both dumbed down in their own way.

If GalCiv "represented" 4x, I wouldn't play 4x anymore.

[AAshbery76]

Galciv2 you clown.

[Iron Giant]

AAshbery76 said:
Galciv2 you clown.

Pleasure to meet you. *snip* I'll avoid the flame bait.

I checked out the galciv2 website and it does look like it might be closer to what 4x is supposed to be.

Galciv was a complete waste of my time to the point that any game with the name galciv in any part of it has a long way to go to call itself 4x in my book. If they got completely away from galciv, it might be worth something.