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		1)You're right. 
 
2) After change the AI_Settings.txt, always remember to shut down SE4, and restart... Try this, and I believe that everything will be ok (I know that several TDM races start with different sizes). 
 
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		 quote: Originally posted by Master Belisarius: 
2) After change the AI_Settings.txt, always remember to shut down SE4, and restart... Try this, and I believe that everything will be ok (I know that several TDM races start with different sizes). 
  
And don't forget to mark them as "Use Style from Race" when you add them to the game...
 
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		1.) Confirmed and fixed for the next release. 
2.) Don't know, havent tested it.
 
3.) Not confirmed, working fine. Remember, you will only see the effect in the empire window, not on the planet window.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		"2) The "Max ship size tonnage from start" in the settings.txt file doesn't work (or I don't understand it correctly). I set it to max size 410 for the first 15 turns, but the AI nevertheless builds cruisers from the start in a full tech game." 
There are three tonnage size settings. Perhaps the AI is using the other?
  quote: Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 1 Amount                                    := 510 
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 1 Num Turns                                 := 20    
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 2 Amount                                    := 610 
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 2 Num Turns                                 := 40    
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 3 Amount                                    := 0 
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 3 Num Turns                                 := 0 
  
My reading of this is that "start 1" is low-tech, "start 2" is medium, and "start 3" is high tech start. Which one did you set?
 
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		Thanks for your answers everybody, 
2) I have done some more testing. The max. size will work fine with turn based movement, but it will not work with simultaneous movement. Somebody else please check that. 
I have also figured out how the file works now. It works as I thought it would (when it works      ). 
Phoenix-D, in your example the AI would build CR for the first 20 turns and BC for the next 20 turns (up to turn 40) after that there will be no size limit. Start1,2,3 does not mean tech level start.
    quote: 1.) Confirmed and fixed for the next release.  
2.) Don't know, havent tested it.  
3.) Not confirmed, working fine. Remember, you will only see the effect in the empire window, not on the planet window     .
  
Thanks [K126]Mephisto, 
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3) Oops, I didn't know that. I have to check that again and add up all the numbers. I hope you are correct (I am sure you are). If the numbers don't show right, it's still a bug, though      .
 
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edit: typo
 
[This message has been edited by Rollo (edited 30 October 2001).]
 
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		Okay, I checked on the system facilities. They DO work. Puh, I am glad. My bad, sorry for the false alert. It is a little confusing that the actual production doesn't show. I assume this is already known to Malfador. 
 
Can anybody reproduce that the AI settings for maximum ship size don't work in sim move? 
 
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		 quote: 2) The "Max ship size tonnage from start" in the settings.txt file doesn't work (or I don't understand it correctly). I set it to max size 410 for the first 15 turns, but the AI nevertheless builds cruisers from the start in a full tech game.
  If that setting turuly wasn't working, I would expect the AIs to build all BaseShips form the start, not Cruisers.
 
It seems to me that the obvious answer is that the tonnage is rounded up to the next larger hull size.
 
(IE: 410 -> 500 = cruiser)
 
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