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Old March 14th, 2006, 04:26 AM
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Also remember that the air in/out hex is a global data item, and is reset on game reload. So if you restart winSPMBT - remember to reset these to the desired values on reloading a saved game and before plotting new strikes.

If playing hot-seat against someone on the same box - then again the air in and out route may have been changed when your mate had control of the PC for his turn. So check it before plotting new strikes (or just change it randomly to do your opponent's head in, whether you have air strikes or not !

WRT the blue on blue issue - I'd like a nice simple straight forward example save game of this (before the air strike obviously! to debug, where the air is reasonably reliably going to do a blue on blue.

I have a feeling it is probably happening when the air strike is being plotted deep in the enemy rear zone and possibly any off-map scatter is then erroneously being wrapped round to the players own end zone ??.

But I will need a small example savegame in order to see what the problem really is.

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Hi Andy,

this (see attachment) is the exact same set up I've been using in the test described above. After starting the game the pregame A-10 strikes will occur. They have been plotted already during US deployment.
I reloaded this save each time running it to see what would happen (see results above). Each time the planes followed the originally plotted entry and exit area's.

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Default Re: My Strike aircraft targeting MY ammo trucks?!?

I seldom experience blue-on-blue air attacks in my phases, OTOH it happens all the time to AI;o) For example did a battle on a large map, Czechoslovakia vs. egypt 1986, and out of 8 Egyptian F-16's, three attacked own troops.
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Has anybody noticed if blue on blue attacks are weapon type dependant (for example PGM vs iron bomb)?
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Blue on blue is dependant on
a) own forces being in the plane's search zone
b) Then failing a pilot skill based roll to ID them as blue
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c) The pilot attacks a nearby Red unit, and the collateral damage takes out the Blue who were close by (CBU say).

- Search zone inceases if the spotter has no LOS or fails a skill check, so friendlies outside the KM or so the plane searches arount the initial x,y can get targeted.
- Search area is much larger for ARM (but ARM will usually not target freindly frequencies)

Anyway - I seem to have found why some air attacks will "wander" way off the initial x,y and target friends too far from it.

But if you want to fully avoid blue on blue - ensure the plotted x.y is at least 20 hexes from Blue at the time of the strike or - that you can guarantee the FOO guiding the strike in has "eyes on" the target hex at that point. (no nasty smoke arrived from arty meanwhile etc). Better yet - keep air strikes 30-40 hexes from Blue forces.

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