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		A thought on the hard drives...We really don't need to put PBW on used drives.  Most data loss is caused by failed IDE hard drives.  So if you have a new drive, that would be cool.  But a used drive with unknown amuont of hours on it is asking for trouble. 
 
What would be really nice if if someone wanted to kick in a little PCI raid card.  Then Geo could set the drives up in a mirror.  Something like a little Fasttrack 2000 would work great. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Fancy video card isn't really neccesary. I don't even have a monitor hooked up to it most of the time. I haven't looked at the specs on the MB Thermo is sending yet, but if it's got any  sort of onboard video that will likely be sufficent. 
 
I'd like to get a good writeable CD or DVD drive so I can start doing more regular backups. Those have really come down in price lately though so that shouldn't be too hateful for me to get on this end somewhere if noone has one. 
 
I'll have to look at the memory in the current server. If that's what we need I could always move that over. 
 
I'm guessing the box Thermo is sending already has a power supply in it. 
 
The current server has a 40GB HDD, and I think Thermo said the new one will have two of those. I think that will probably be more then enough hard drive for the foreseeable future.  
 
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A thought on the hard drives...We really don't need to put PBW on used drives.  Most data loss is caused by failed IDE hard drives.  So if you have a new drive, that would be cool.  But a used drive with unknown amuont of hours on it is asking for trouble. 
 
			
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		Oh, good.  Cuz I was just going to offer my brand new OEM copy of XP-Pro SP2..... 
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With 80GB HDD's going for 50 bucks these days, you are probably right it makes sense just to buy a new one. 
 
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I put a pair of 40gig drives in it, they were imaged spares and have less than an hour of use.  So you are good to go on drives.  The system itself probably has about 50 hours if that.  This was a demo system, showed it to several clients and I ended up building 175 of them.  It's kind of funny, when I ordered the cases, I did a bulk purchase.  They came on palets, with cardboard shrink wrapped around the whole stack, no indivirual boxes.  I got home one day and it was sitting in the driveway!   I was worng on the ram, I had pulled it at some point in the past.  I scrounged up a 256 meg stick of ddr 333 to get you going.  Memory is like beer around here.  If it isn't being used by someone, it walks off.  You can pick up a pair of 512 ddr 400's for less than 70 bucks.  You'll need a CD reader (writer would be nice, then you could ghost it to cd's.  And a floppy reader.  For what they cost, perhaps some Empire will spring for new ones and write it off to foreign aid.     
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		We have a computer store that one week sold 200Gb hard drives for $90 with a $75 rebate.  I got one, but since my motherboard has a maximum of 30Gb drives allowed that is what it is formated for.  What a waste. :-(  If I could get a 30Gig one and copy everything over I would be happy to trade. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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We have a computer store that one week sold 200Gb hard drives for $90 with a $75 rebate.  I got one, but since my motherboard has a maximum of 30Gb drives allowed that is what it is formated for.  What a waste. :-(  If I could get a 30Gig one and copy everything over I would be happy to trade.  
			
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With 80GB HDD's going for 50 bucks these days, you are probably right it makes sense just to buy a new one.
pffft, thats expensive per GB. How about $30 for a 200 GB drive (after rebates)?    Or Parasite's.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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