ME262 wrong guns?

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The penetration value of the guns carried on the following planes/guns should not be adjusted from 2 to 4 to reflect parity with the 20mm Hispano. The plane/gun combos mentioned carried HE shells designed for breaking up Allied Bombers. These rounds were incredibly low velocity by comparison with very limited amounts of explosive designed for fragmentation and causing fires. They were notoriously poor at penetrating armor. By comparison the 20mm Hispano round had incredible muzzle velocity (on a par with .50 M1 & M2) and basically no HE component (mostly just phosphorous tracer type Incediary). Also keep in mind that even though AP ammo was available for some of these weapons it was used in very limited roles when aircraft were being used exclusively for Air-to-Mud missions. Lastly aircraft weapons had no round select option. The magazine or belt fed weapons had a homogeneous not heterogeneous mix of ammo. Therefore a plane shouldn't have a magazine of 35 HE rounds and 5 AP rounds. One or the other, basically for all intents and purposes never AP rounds except in the case of unique tank buster planes or tank buster weapon loadouts. As a final note I would point out that pilots despised flying with their guns configured with AP ammo as that meant that engaging with other planes was going to be dangerously stupid and engaging other planes is what a plane does.

chuckfourth said:
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These weapons get a penetration value of 2 shouldn't this be 4 like say the hispano 20mm?
carried by,
Fw 190A-8 121
Fw 190F-8 237
Fw 190F-3 242
Me 210a 901
Me 410B-1903
Bf 109G-2/R1 122
Bf 110D-2 123
Hs 129 B-1 128
Hs 129 B-3/Wa
Hs 129B-2 240
Fw 190 D-12 243
Fw 190F-1 236
Fw 190 D-12 243
Ju 87D-8 Stuka 487
Bf 110C 894
Bf 109E 906
Bf 109E-7 907
Bf 109F 908
Bf 109F-2 909
Fw 190A-4/U-3 913
Fw 190R-6 914
Fw 190F-8/R-1 915
Fw 190F-9/Pb1 916
Fw 190F-9/Pb2 917
Bf 110C-4/B 895
Bf 110C-7 896
Bf 110E-2 897
Bf 110NF 898
Hs 129 B-2/R-4 900
Quotes from
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tankbusters.htm
30mm MK-101/103
"Various AP rounds were used, but the most effective was the Hartkernmunition, which had a penetrating core of tungsten carbide sheathed in a light-alloy shell with a sharply-pointed profile. This could penetrate 75-90 mm / 300 m / 90 degrees (depending on the type of armour)"
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