SE5 screenshots ugly?

Artaud · #1 July 12th, 2006, 06:57 PM

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Raapys said:
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.

I'm with you 100% on this.

Q · #2 July 13th, 2006, 01:27 AM

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Artaud said:

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Raapys said:
Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.

I'm with you 100% on this.

I'm with you 110% on this.

Dizzy · #3 July 13th, 2006, 01:28 AM

Well, Raapys, haha, buy a new comp u cheapo!!! If SEV hangs on to its monetary challenged playerbase with their 5 year old comps, then SEV wont ever be commercially viable. Sorry, but all a review has to do is say it has Amiga style graphics and the death knell will sound.

You peeps need to embrace 3D. I mean, I know you think a 3D Strategy Game is an oxymoron, but you're wrong. This is something that absolutely HAS to be done. I dont need to explain wahy, if you have any brains at all you already know. STFU and go buy a new computer. SEV commercially cannot hold back in the 3D dept. so you cheap bastards dont have to upgrade like evryone else. OMG.

Im sure you few hundred fans out there that swear 2D graphics are all you need will buy Amiga graphic styled SEV gameplay, but fortunately for SEV, it doesnt need you and so I hope the graphics will be up to date so the game sells.

Suicide Junkie · #4 July 13th, 2006, 02:02 AM

Would SE4 be improved by being rendered in 3D? No. It is about the GAME not the graphics.
It is the gameplay that keeps us playing SE4, making mods and shipsets and buying more CDs for people we know. A lot of us have been here since the last millenium, it is that good.

SE4's graphics are great. They look nice, but more importantly, they are enough to let the gameplay shine through. And if you want them to look better, you can either mod them yourself or download the stuff other people have done.
Who could need for anything more?
We're not watching a movie, we're playing a 4x wargame!

3D graphics are nice and all, but they mean Diddly-Squat for the gameplay that we are all here for.
Maybe someday you will learn that lesson.

The saddest part is that the retail market is indeed that shallow. Only fluff matters to them. And like everything else it will be there and gone in a month or two.

Meanwhile, SE3 still makes money.

Kamog · #5 July 13th, 2006, 02:17 AM

I think the SEV screenshots look great, including the ground combat.

Dizzy · #6 July 13th, 2006, 04:40 AM

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Suicide Junkie said:
3D graphics are nice and all, but they mean Diddly-Squat for the gameplay that we are all here for.
Maybe someday you will learn that lesson.

I know it's sad, but graphics sell, gameplay is 2nd. And while yes, we are all here because the gameplay rocks, money is what makes the world go round. Not good will. So take your snazzy gameplay and throw in some mediocre graphics and you have just another has been. Polish the graphics and stick a half naked babe on the cover and yeah, it'd sell. Big time. And money it'd make. A lot.

Do abbidon females look hot in mating season?

Seriously, tho, SJ. I know what you fear. When anyone else gets involved in a cult classic game and try and make money on it in doing so they change the game to appeal to the masses so they make more $$$... and that means dumbing down the gameplay and sticking in some stupid graphics... yeah yeah... Seen it many times. But know what? It works. Sad aint it?

I'm not endorsing that. As long as gameplay stays the same... inject all the hollywood collagen and botox you can... Hell, some breast implants wont hurt either. If SEV looks like Janice Dickenson when it hits the store shelves, all the better... But oh, please no dated ugly half assed graphics. It wont sell. Fact.

Suicide Junkie · #7 July 13th, 2006, 08:37 AM

It won't sell, IN RETAIL, maybe.

SE4 made a Aaron and Shrapnel a lot of money (even more in comparison to its development costs and when you consider there is only one employee, Aaron himself)
Heck, according to the Admins at shrapnel they were still selling them like hotcakes 5 years after it came out.

PS:
You really really need to cut down on the cursing and insults.

PPS:
You should read this:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/blo...mes-dont-work/

PPPS:
You are probably the only person here who thinks that I fear that. I'm a Beta tester after all, and trying to get CBmod rewritten for SE5 by launch.

Renegade 13 · #8 July 13th, 2006, 02:22 AM

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Dizzy said:
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I dont need to explain wahy, if you have any brains at all you already know. STFU and go buy a new computer. SEV commercially cannot hold back in the 3D dept. so you cheap bastards dont have to upgrade like evryone else. OMG.

Im sure you few hundred fans out there that swear 2D graphics are all you need will buy Amiga graphic styled SEV gameplay, but fortunately for SEV, it doesnt need you and so I hope the graphics will be up to date so the game sells.

If it's all the same to you, I'd rather you not tell people to "Shut the F*ck Up" and refrain from personal insults ie: "you cheap bastards".

And to be honest, the 4X genre isn't exactly one that has hordes of followers, so a few hundred fans are "needed"...

Lets say it retails for $50 US. $50 US x say 300 = $15,000...sounds like a lot of cash to me, and I bet it would to the developers here.

You're entitled to your opinion and to express it; but please refrain from insulting other members of this forum.

Thank you.