Clash Of Armies [Started]

[RonD]

I am going out of town starting Friday. I will get the Friday turn in without problem, but could we delay what would normally be the Monday (7/31) hosting until Wednesday?

[WraithLord]

NP

[RonD]

I just noticed that the Black Book of Secrets has been forged. I thought blood was outlawed? Anyone want to fess up to having it?

[WraithLord]

Also, I haven't received the turn from Pangaea, hosting is scheduled within an hour.

[RonD]

I'm working on it (that's how I noticed the greyed-out Little Black Book).

[WraithLord]

RonD said:
I'm working on it (that's how I noticed the greyed-out Little Black Book).

LOL

Thanks!

[WraithLord]

turn # 65 sent.

[The Panther]

RonD said:
I just noticed that the Black Book of Secrets has been forged. I thought blood was outlawed? Anyone want to fess up to having it?

Rule 1. Blood hunting is prohibited. The map settings give an unfair advantage to blood hunting nations being the reason for this rule. Since Mictlan needs to blood sacrifice for spreading dominions they are an exception to this rule. Mictlan is allowed to blood hunt but are prohibited from blood research and the forging of items that require blood slaves (with the exception of the jade knife).


Read the rules: There is nothing about blood construction, blood research, or blood summons for any nation other than Mictlan. The only prohibition is the actual blood hunting itself. I had to go back myself and read the rules closely to make sure nobody is cheating.

The idea was to prevent blood from being overpowered. For sure, whatever meager natural blood income is occuring on this map is certainly not enough to cause blood to matter much one way or the other. There are at least two blood income sites that I am aware of being on this map.

This is why I was so upset back when I realized that Mictlan was allowed to blood hunt under the revised rules. So, when he showed up with spine devils against me and was also allowed to blood hunt, it just did not seem right. Luckily, that has long since ceased to be an issue.

The black book of secrets in nice in that it gives death+1 in addition to the blood+1. That is a +2 research bonus to any nation than can get mages with both blood and death.

[WraithLord]

Guys, it's fortunate that you have brought up this subject.

I want to come forward and tell you that unfortunately I have violated the blood hunting rule. I will explain,

About five turns ago, I had made a grave mistake and actually started blood hunting. The reason is that I have forgotten about the house rule, simple as that
Now I have forged like six SDRs and blood hunted in two provinces for four turns. I have a total of 52 blood slaves that came from hunting. I haven't forged any other blood item and I haven't cast any blood spell.

For sure, I will do the following to amend for that violation: First, I will stop blood hunting; Second, I will throw away the SDRs and Third, I will get rid of the blood slaves (I was thinking of maybe giving them to the AI).

This of course doesn't negate the fact that I have violated the house rule. I want to stress that it was a mistake and not intentional. I want you guys to opinion on how I should proceed. I'm taking responsibility for this and if necessary I'm willing to step down (AI/sub) or compensate the other players or whatever.

IMO, if it was another player in my stead, I would have settled for a compensation in gold to all the human nations (like 200g for each).

I'm waiting for your response on this and I'm truly sorry for this mistake.

[RonD]

About the book - it looks like you're right about the way the house rules were written. In my mind I had just been thinking "no blood" and so had just been ignoring the small blood income I do have.

As for WraithLord - I'd say the the wasted mage time is sufficient punishment.