And now ? (WinSP dreams)

[PatG]

PDF said:
I don't think the SP game system will be very good at simulating anything before the 30's - ie when the squad wasn't the basic tactical unit on the battlefield, and with few or no vehicles ...
I'd prefer other game engines for that.

A single "squad" icon can hold up to 255 men to make an ACW double company or half-regiment. This gives prototypical density and basic unit size. C&C and cohesion wouldn't be quite the same.

The real deal breaker is the AI pick-lists. While a purpose designed pre-1900 engine will be better than extending the SP one, there is still a very valid case for SPWWI and a lesser one for actions in earlier periods with wide spread use of repeating arms.

[halstein]

The game "Age of Rifles" covers the period 1840-1914 quite well, so I don't think a SP is needed. The SP-series don't have formations like line and column, wich you need for pre-WW1 stuff.

Halstein.

[cbreedon]

Age of rifles goes to 1914.... SPWWII starts at 1930 16 year gap of cool stuff... WWI, Russian Revolution, Mexican Revolution, expansion of Poland, German Freikorps exploits, same in Austria. All sorts of mayhem to recreate :-)

[Dracula]

Yes and of course the game had CORPSES on the battlefield when a unit is destroyed

I want corpses for sp series !!!

Cheers

Vincent

[PatG]

Dracula said:
Yes and of course the game had CORPSES on the battlefield when a unit is destroyed

I want corpses for sp series !!!

Cheers

Vincent

Play the Great Battles ancients series if you want corpses. Men horses and Elephants - and they even float down stream if they get killed in a river. If things get too gory, there is even a "clear corpses" button - the Romano-Greek version of bulldozers and lime wagons.

[Dracula]

Lol yes I know this game too but under xp its mission impossible to run it. Its not a question of gore but if you take for example Age of rifle or the Xcom series or even combat mission there are bodies of the fallen so why not in sp series ? After all we are not playing a mario game where the target flashes and then poof disapears
The wrecks of the vehicules proove that this can be done also for "soft" target and we could even include a supression factor for units near corpses (the view of death always demoralize).

Cheers

Vincent

[PatG]

I'm beginning to wonder if your last name isn't Price...

At ground scale, one body is 2 pixels, at vehicle scale, 13 so not much more than greasy smears.

While an interesting piece of chrome for some, not too high on my wish list.

The morale effects of nearby unit destruction can, and may already, be built in to the code.

[PDF]

Dracula said:
Lol yes I know this game too but under xp its mission impossible to run it. Its not a question of gore but if you take for example Age of rifle or the Xcom series or even combat mission there are bodies of the fallen so why not in sp series ? After all we are not playing a mario game where the target flashes and then poof disapears
The wrecks of the vehicules proove that this can be done also for "soft" target and we could even include a supression factor for units near corpses (the view of death always demoralize).

Cheers

Vincent

Rather childish query, if you want corpses you should find better than SP series.

Plus GB series works correctly under xp once you set it on Win95 compatibility mode.

[halstein]

I have XP, and run Age of Rifles. Had to do a bit of hacking to make it work, but noting advanced. However, I think the SP-series could be pressed back to 1900, but not much further. Earlier formations were all important.

Halstein.

[PDF]

Agreed Narwan, I think the simplest fix would be to just remove any smoke ability to infantry (except engineers/pioneers and so on).