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August 8th, 2006, 12:14 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
Is there an independent press source for this?
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August 8th, 2006, 02:44 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
Just the coolaid drinking kind.
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August 8th, 2006, 03:12 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
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Is there an independent press source for this?
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Yeah I think something from a major news network would be nice. CNN, BBC, Fox, ect...
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August 8th, 2006, 03:45 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
I don't know why people choose to believe this conspiracy theory that the US Government, specifically GW, organized the 9/11 attacks and that the towers were taken down via controlled blasts. Any one who has half a brain would know that structurally the building collapse under its own weight and those "blasts" were the result of air being forced out from between the floors as the compression from the collapsing floor above it came down. In fact the very people who build the buildings proved conclusively, that’s without a doubt, how and why the buildings fell.
As to the missile attack on the pentagon... ok tell that to the families of the people who died both on the plane and in the building.
This is akin to the nuts that went around saying Clinton knew that the bombing in Oklahoma (sp) was going to happen. Its just pure tripe being voiced by people out to sell books and make a name for themselves in the conspiracy community.
The sad truth about this is that any good American may not believe this crap, but would, and unfortunetly have, die to defend a persons right to say it.
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Is Isriel behind the 9/11 attacks? Forgive me for saying this, but after reading a bit from those links you provided, I get the strong impression that this might be the underlying theme here. Whether or not my speculation is correct I would like to point out that this could be a damn good book idea. I make no joke here, this would make one hell of a good book if a writer could do such a story justice. While no such book may never be written, it does spark ones imagination and desire to see such a book written.
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August 8th, 2006, 04:02 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
People want to believe these kinds of things because it takes less work to verify gossip than fact.
There never was a conspiracy by this administration to do 9/11, maybe exploit it, but not to do it.
It's common knowledge that these buildings are designed, incase of catastrophic failure, to collapse down on top of itself as to avoid collatoral damage to the surrounding buildings.
And doesn't ann coulter of fox news make the assertation that Clinton was behind 9/11? It doens't matter, a large majority of her work is turning out to be copied from others.
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August 8th, 2006, 04:18 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
Ann is, well Ann. What can we say that hasn't already been said. She scares even me. But I have to be honest, I love the fact that she is just as good at bling bling flinging as the people on the left. Even the right needs the occassional crack pot to stir up nonsense and raise a few eye brows once in a while. Besides, some of what she sputs on about does make sense in an odd, yet far off logic, that only a twisted mind like hers, and those opposite of her on the left, could come up with.
I say let them fight it out, and who ever wins, we lock up in a dark hole someplace and force them to watch endless reruns of Three's company and the Waltons.
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August 9th, 2006, 03:46 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
I thought that's why the right had Fred Phelps? But I think Ann coulter hurts the right more than her anti-leftist rants, seriously. She doesn't know the difference between satan and satin at times.
I miss the era of .74 cent gas and neutral-point-of-view news.
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August 9th, 2006, 08:26 AM
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I tend to think that there is too much TV, internet blogs, and news radio in our lives.
Lets just say for arguements sake that the US Government, and our beloved President, a man who has not been credited with an over abundance of brains, masterminded the 9/11 attacks. How did they do this in such a short period of time? Why did Al Gore fight so hard to take the Presidency away from Bush after Bush won, or stole depending upon your point of view the election? I think its because Clinton and Gore knew that 9/11 was going to happen and they had it all worked out as to how they were going to blame it on Israil and the NRA. Lets face it, 8 and a half months isn't enough time to hire, train, and mastermind a major operation as those of 9/11. So the fault, if the government is behind it, doesn't lie with Bush and boys, its lies with Clinton and Company.
Think about that the next time some one spins a novel idea for a conspiracy about Bush and his people being behind the 9/11 attacks. Do the math people, just do the math.
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September 21st, 2006, 11:26 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
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It's common knowledge that these buildings are designed, incase of catastrophic failure, to collapse down on top of itself as to avoid collatoral damage to the surrounding buildings.
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It's actually not exactly. It sounds trite but buildings fall more or less straight down because that's the direction gravity is pulling them. Skyscrapers are designed to withstand stress loads primarily in a downward direction. They don't actually fall over like trees because the structural supports fail and they collapse downard way before the center of gravity can get out to the point where the building would topple over sideways.
You could build a building that could be tipped over far enough that it would fall over instead of collapsing down, but it would take so much extra reinforcing material that it wouldn't have much usable interior space for offices and stuff. Kind of like a tree. 
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September 21st, 2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: GOP CONGRESSMAN SEES THE LIGHT!!!
WTC7 fell for the same reason the twin towers fell, uncontrolled fire burned long enough to weaken the structrural support members to the point of collapse. A fire in any structure that is left to burn will eventually weaken and destroy enough supports to cause it to collapse. This is true for steel frame buildings as well as wood ones. It just take a little longer for steel and concrete structures. You don't see buildings collapse during fire much these days because the fire departments do a pretty good job of putting them out before they get to the point of structural collapse. But on 9/11 the fires were at such a height and and burned so hot because of the jet fuel that the fire department couldn't get to it in time.
The collapse of the north and south towers, on top of killing hundreds of fireman, choked off the are with debris so that noone that was left could get into a position where they could fight the fires burning in the surrounding buidlings.
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