Short 75mm missing its smoke rounds?

[Mobhack]

Which Pz3n in what formation? - there are 5 different pz3n in the GE OOB used for different purposes. (And in which OOB, as there are probably ither users than Germany too).

If you want the CS tank version - buy one(s) that are classed as a CS tank, not one that is in the medium tank class user formations.

Unit class is the template for formation purchase, and changing the unit class will exclued it from the formations that use that template class and probably duplicate the ones already classed as a CS tank rather than as a medium tank, the ones specific to tiger platoons (which have to coexist with the 50mm versions used there) etc. See the mobhack help file on formations.


Cheers
Andy

[chuckfourth]

Hi Andy
Ive read about the formations in Mobhack, very interesting thanks.
But first to answer your question
All Pz3n in All formations. As clearly stated in my original post.
And no "I dont want a CS tank" I would like the game to model the ammo loadout of the short 75mm gun correctly ie issue it some smoke rounds wherever it appears. Again clearly stated in my original post.
What I have found for pz3n.
Greedy little fellow isnt he. He has 3 classes, 13-medium tank, 105-infantry tank and 129-CS tank. Firsly as he is actually a cs tank he shouldnt be included in class 13. Without knowing the details of the classes I imagine either the 105 or 129 class would be fine for this vehicle. If you remove pz3n from class 13 wont this just result in pz3n Cs tank being absent form the picklist for formations that are looking for a gun tank anyway? which the pz3n isnt so jolly good show I should think.
As for your concern regarding duplicate formations either remove one or dont worry about it there are still plenty of empty formation slots. As far as I can see there arnt any mixed 50mm pz3n tiger platoons so again no worries.
Also formation 70 looks wrong in that it should have separate zugs for the tigers and pz3n's not mixed as currently depicted.
And something I find interesting, if pz3n can happily be class 105 or 129 arnt these classes duplicates? maybe one could be used to correctly model the early CS cruiser tanks all smoke ammo loadout.
Regards Chuck.

[DRG]

I'll dig around into this at some point. Class 15 close support tanks ( the early Pz IV's ) and class 129 close support tanks ( the Pz III N and M's) appear to be getting different smoke shells loads ( the class 15 tanks get smoke for all tanks in the formation but the class 129 CS does not) and yes..... they are duplicate classes but they overlap and the OOB designer didn't want them mixed and the ones in class 105 in the German OOB are special "OST" panzer formations and they are that unit class because no other German tanks use that class but other nations do. There are no spare classes so we will not be creating a special class just for the early Brit CS cruiser tanks with an all smoke ammo loadout.

You *MAY* have a point that the PzIIIn's shouldn't be classed as Medium tanks and if I get confirmation of that I will consider renationalizing them in the OOB to keep them out of the Medium tank formations but on the other hand, nobody but you is complaining about them being there and can you say with 100% certainty that they NEVER were used in regular tank formations?


Don