SEV Mod questions

Randallw · #1 September 23rd, 2006, 04:46 AM

In SE4 there were some games where you started without any warppoints but had to build your own. This was possible as you could see the location of every system. AS SE5 doesn't show the system until you find it I'd have to say that would be impossible. HAving a closed off system shoudn't stop the map being usable for all the systems you can reach, but it doesn't look like the closed system would ever be available. Unless it had an ancient race that eventually appears, since it can see all the systems.

MasterChiToes · #2 September 23rd, 2006, 05:02 AM

The grayed out General Options for the demo includes "No Warp Points".

The invisible/cloaked warp points is an interesting concept (especially if you can hide those horrid little broken warp lines on the galaxy map). Maybe include a tech for revealing warp points.

Randallw · #3 September 23rd, 2006, 05:08 AM

It made for a different war in the book. You had to go through new wormhole stealthed so that the enemy didn't see you, in case it was closed and they were unaware of it, and never go through a closed wormhole unless you were 100% certain there wasn't another stealthed ship watching. An ally made that mistake and they lost one of their homeworlds. Later the good guys find a closed wormhole to one of the enemies 5 homeworlds and wipe it out. The enemy survive the war, unknown to the good guys, but they are in a closed system with only a single planet. If they ever come out they will be detected and their race exterminated.

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 September 23rd, 2006, 02:54 PM

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Randallw said:
It made for a different war in the book. You had to go through new wormhole stealthed so that the enemy didn't see you, in case it was closed and they were unaware of it, and never go through a closed wormhole unless you were 100% certain there wasn't another stealthed ship watching. An ally made that mistake and they lost one of their homeworlds. Later the good guys find a closed wormhole to one of the enemies 5 homeworlds and wipe it out. The enemy survive the war, unknown to the good guys, but they are in a closed system with only a single planet. If they ever come out they will be detected and their race exterminated.

Is that the 'bug war' you're refering too? I don't remember any text on any bugs surviving.

Randallw · #5 September 24th, 2006, 12:30 AM

yep the bug war. On the Baen edition P587, in one of the systems that must be defended the bugs think on how their systems has 4 warppoints, not just the 3 visible. A new race appeared through it, thus giving away it's location, but the bugs only need 1 gunboat to conquer the enemy. They deem the new planet the planet which must be concealed. They send a colony to the planet but can't send more in case the allies see it. The colony must never use that warppoint again. Later as they are about to be exterminated the last bug planet learns of the hidden colony, and takes some hope that at least some will survive, albeit hidden away.

narf poit chez BOOM · #6 September 25th, 2006, 05:34 AM

I remember that now.

I don't think the word 'hope' applies; they seem to be computer-like; emotionless, but not impulse-less.

Randallw · #7 September 25th, 2006, 05:41 AM

Well it's described as a fragile emotion, but yeah bugs feeling anything is a bit out of place. When they lose battles the strongest they "feel" is being slightly annoyed. Even when it is obvious they will be exterminated they don't regret anything, yeah sure they might have made some slight changes in strategy but not for a second do they even consider that they would not have attacked the allies.

Randallw · #8 September 23rd, 2006, 05:12 AM

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MasterChiToes said:
(especially if you can hide those horrid little broken warp lines on the galaxy map).

oh right, I forgot about those. Yep i've been using them. I was wondering if I'd found all the warp points in a system then realised it showed all the directions it went.