SE5. How do alliances work?

Randallw · #1 September 24th, 2006, 10:50 AM

Clearly an alliance, as in SE4, is the partnership of two empires, but how do they come up with the alliance flag. I find 5 alliance flags in the Demo. How do 2 or more empires that decide on an alliance agree to use an alliance flag, and how is it implemented. Once multiplayer starts I forsee alliance flags that could share the emblems of the members.

Puke · #2 September 24th, 2006, 01:37 PM

i dont know, i cant get those pesky AI to agree to any treaties. Heck, i can barely get them to agree to regular treaties. i really wanted to experiment with alliances, too.

Kamog · #3 September 24th, 2006, 03:30 PM

We could experiment with alliances by having two human-controlled empires. When starting a new game, just add two new empires to have a 2-player hotseat game.

Captain Kwok · #4 September 24th, 2006, 04:42 PM

There is probably a few problems in the demo with alliances... but you can try it and see how it works. I haven't had much experience with it myself.

Puke · #5 September 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM

I have tried that, Kamog. It generally locks up during the turn processing, when i have multiple human controlled empires. I've never actually gotten a game to run long enough to get an alliance.

I even tried your trick with turning a AI race into human controlled, and I proposed an alliance to it then. The game locked up during processing on the very turn the aliance was being accepted. I think theres something bugged about hotseat in the demo.

i'll keep trying various ways, though.

edit: confirmed. it locks up during turn processing, every time an alliance is accepted. its not just a random bug with hotseat play.

Captain Kwok · #6 September 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM

Essentially an alliance is like a regular 2-empire treaty with all the various conditions but with multiple members. So in order to add/drop members or make rule changes, you need to get votes. When a proposal is made, each empire votes and if there is enough votes the proposal is enacted. And you get to pick your flag.

Puke · #7 September 24th, 2006, 05:42 PM

can you have both a treaty and an aliance with the same empire?

if so, do the trade bonuses stack?

MasterChiToes · #8 September 24th, 2006, 10:31 PM

Just tried a hotseat game... and there were three amon'krie (deleted err'ed comment).

Randallw · #9 September 24th, 2006, 10:41 PM

aha, but do any of the Beta testers know how the alliance flag is implemented or is the NDA still active for some reason?.

MasterChiToes · #10 September 24th, 2006, 10:52 PM

uh, when you request an alliance in the demo you have to select a flag.