SE:V Manual Released

Tampa_Gamer · #1 October 10th, 2006, 10:57 PM

Annette - maybe their attorneys are forum shopping and prefer the laws in NC and particularly Wake County! (j/k of course). This is malpractice if their attorneys actually charged them a review fee on this one. Any action now arising from SE5 can only be brought in that County unless both parties consent to forum change. What a mess!

Atrocities · #2 October 10th, 2006, 11:49 PM

I love shrapnel games and think they are one of the best publisher of the games they shell on the net or in the world.

Randallw · #3 October 11th, 2006, 12:25 AM

I'm sorry if I appear a bit slow but I don't GET the warranty thing. Did S1 just copy the warranty from Shrapnel since although they are in Canada they are quoting Shrapnels location?

Also I am in Australia, does this mean I can't get a warranty? (not something I have ever payed attention to before)

Phoenix-D · #4 October 11th, 2006, 12:26 AM

It doesn't mean you don't get a warrenty. It means- if the EULA is valid, and that's..questionable..that your local laws concering warrenties don't take effect, and instead any disputes have to use the laws and courts of North Carolina.

By the way, amusing little tidbit in the SFI EULA:
"You may not: ..Alter, decompile, modify reverse engineer or disassemble the Software, create derivative works based upon the Software,..
..Upload or transmit the Software, or any portion thereof, to any electronic bulletin board, network, or other type of multi-use computer system regardless of purpose"

Wouldn't that technically forbid mods?

Tim Brooks · #5 October 11th, 2006, 12:39 AM

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By the way, amusing little tidbit in the SFI EULA:
"You may not: ..Alter, decompile, modify reverse engineer or disassemble the Software, create derivative works based upon the Software,..
..Upload or transmit the Software, or any portion thereof, to any electronic bulletin board, network, or other type of multi-use computer system regardless of purpose"

Wouldn't that technically forbid mods?

That wouldn't technically forbid mods -- that totally forbids mods.

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Did S1 just copy the warranty from Shrapnel since although they are in Canada they are quoting Shrapnels location?

That's correct. They took our License Agreement word for word and then just changed the publisher from us to them. They didn't even change the location

Fyron · #6 October 11th, 2006, 12:47 AM

Well, text files and bitmaps are hardly "software."

Randallw · #7 October 11th, 2006, 01:10 AM

I checked the PDF that came with my Australian copy and it does have the North carolina stuff

I can't find anything called a warranty disclaimer in my hard copy booklet, but there is a Software licence agreement at the back. It does have the stuff about not modifying the software but as Fyron says that appears to be executable "software" not text files and images.

What is different is that it talks of Canadian federal and international copyright law and says the agreement will be governed by the laws of Canada and the province of Quebec.

Tim Brooks · #8 October 11th, 2006, 01:41 AM

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Well, text files and bitmaps are hardly "software."

The key statement here is:

"create derivative works based upon the Software"

That would be mods.

jimbob · #9 October 11th, 2006, 01:13 AM

Hey Tim,

Perhaps you guys can charge them for your lawyer's time?

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And for the rest of us, we'd just better hope that Quebec doesn't succeed in separating and forming a new country!

Tim Brooks · #10 October 11th, 2006, 01:43 AM

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Perhaps you guys can charge them for your lawyer's time?

Too funny jimbob!

If we did, they'd just declare bankruptcy.