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				 Re: TDM-ModPack 2.00 BETA 
 An interesting problem I've come across:
 A "Range Error" will occur after using the combat simulator when playing with the Sergetti.  It doesn't matter which ships you use.  It does not happen when simulating Sergetti ships as another race.
 
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 I have posted updated Versions of the Rage and Vaxin in the Mod forum.  They address some of the issues that came up in the test games.  Let me know what you think! 
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 Goeschmo: the patch 1.41 not fixed all the problems with the random AI generator. Take a look and you will see.
 Capnq: Thanks for the report about the typo in the Aquilaeian_AI_General.txt!!
 
 Rollo: I forget to test "maximum ship size from start” with simultaneous movement… But I’ll do it!
 
 Oleg: thanks for the suggestion and can understand your view, ok?
 But I will keep the original general.txt like the save files for three reasons:
 1) I hope that MM will fix it some day.
 2) Although the race will be a bit more strong because will use 1000 extra points, still will be more weak than the *.emp race.
 3) With the current bug, I think that if somebody want to play against a challenging race, most the time is forced use the *.emp files. Then, if somebody want to play with random races, should use 5000 points for the AIs or assume that will play against more weak races.
 
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 MB, I see what's happening. It used to not decrease characteristics that you had set below 100% in the general text file. It appears he has that part working, but it won't use the extra points in selecting the other attributes. This has been reported to Aaron that it is still not working right?
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 For a more in depth discussion of the problem with the AI_General file and randon generation, see this thread:http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/For...ML/004084.html
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 Racial Points Bug: 
This one has been reported and will be taken care of in the next SE4 Patch.
 
To Deathstalker: Yes, you are correct. I noticed this behaviour myself when I set up a medium Tech game in the past. But unfortunately there is really no way around it, so.     
To Vildecor: I tried to reproduce the bug but it worked fine for me. Might be a problem on your PC. Anyway, thanks that you reported it, that's the only way we can be sure it is not a general problem.   
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 Q"To Deathstalker: Yes, you are correct. I noticed this behaviour myself when I set up a medium Tech game in the past. But unfortunately there is really no way around it, so. "
 The only way around this I can see is by making a seperate attack/defense ship that has ABP's and has a line in the 'must have' for a component that is discovered around the same time as the APB's.  This way the normal attack/defense ship can not have the APB's listed in it's weapon types.  Maybe using the 'scanner jammer' as a must have?? (did'nt look close enough to see if it is developed around the same time.) Or maybe limit it by ship size (ie, if APB's and BattleCruisers are developed around the same time then have APB's added only after BC's are discovered).
 
 
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