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November 1st, 2006, 10:32 AM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
I think there is also a split along the modders/non-modders line. SEV was made for its modding abilty first and it's playability 2nd. At least it seems that way to me. I do mod some small items to suit for taste, but a whole mod takes hard work, time and dedication. If Kwok's Balance Mod wasn't ready to go, I think there would have been even more complaints.
The release imo should have waited a little longer, but its a trade-off. More bugs are getting squashed sooner.
But that doesn't solve the problems with a questionably designed UI. Hopefully this will be looked at when most of the game bugs are fixed and not forgotten about.
Someone in another post here or one of the other sites made a comment about (paraphrasing) in 5 or 6 years SEV will be at the point SEIV is. Problem is that's fine for the faithful not necessarily new customers.
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November 1st, 2006, 10:48 AM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
The Beta Testers should have been choosen more carefully. It IS an important step in releasing a product. Many of these bugs could have been found in the playtesting and patched before release. These don't seem to be bugs that require a 'long' game to discover, but are 'in fact' some basic game operations that are flawed. While I don't agrue that the playtesters did a good job, maybe they just needed some modders and dedicated players to have been playtesting?
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November 1st, 2006, 12:35 PM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
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Xrati said:These don't seem to be bugs that require a 'long' game to discover, but are 'in fact' some basic game operations that are flawed. While I don't agrue that the playtesters did a good job, maybe they just needed some modders and dedicated players to have been playtesting?
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90-95% of the currently reported bugs/flaws were reported - but unfortunately the release date came before most of these could be addressed.
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November 1st, 2006, 01:58 PM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
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Xrati said:These don't seem to be bugs that require a 'long' game to discover, but are 'in fact' some basic game operations that are flawed. While I don't agrue that the playtesters did a good job, maybe they just needed some modders and dedicated players to have been playtesting?
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90-95% of the currently reported bugs/flaws were reported - but unfortunately the release date came before most of these could be addressed.
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Yep.
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November 1st, 2006, 08:07 PM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
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Xrati said:
The Beta Testers should have been choosen more carefully. It IS an important step in releasing a product. Many of these bugs could have been found in the playtesting and patched before release. These don't seem to be bugs that require a 'long' game to discover, but are 'in fact' some basic game operations that are flawed. While I don't agrue that the playtesters did a good job, maybe they just needed some modders and dedicated players to have been playtesting?
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With all due respect Xrait, you were not involed in the beta testing therefore you have no knowledge as to what went on. So please keep your specultive derogatory, and that is the way I read it, comments regarding the "beta, or beta testers" private.
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November 1st, 2006, 09:33 PM
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Re: SE5 bad reviews and problems.
Not knowing how the play testing did go, does not matter. I see the end product! I had hoped, it would have turned out to be better. It appears as all the original purchasers are the testers! While I have no doubt that all the bugs will get fixed. I'm afraid that the game has already lost a good portion of sales due to the original release of a "bugged" game. Once you lose creditability, it’s hard to regain it.
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