OT: Season 3 BSG

Atrocities · #1 November 26th, 2006, 03:40 AM

I have a question that I haven't seen answered yet. Who created the human cylons?

I mean its obvious that humans created the crome versions, but who created the human versions? The chrome domes aren't especially blessed with outstanding cpu's so this begs the question, who created the human versions of the cylons?

I think the answer to that question will be a very interesting story arc. My money is a human created the human cylons and is behind this whole GOD thing that they believe in.

AgentZero · #2 November 26th, 2006, 04:25 AM

It's possible some variety of chromedome created the human cylons. From what I remember, humanity created the shiney ones, the shineys achieved sentience and fought a nasty little war with humanity, at the conclusion of which the sentient robots left human space. At some point after that, the chromdomes could have created the human variety, but I think it's a bit odd that the fleshy ones would have then taken a leadership role, while subsequent shineys were demoted to the non-sentient variety we all know and love today.

Of course, this all seems like an awful lot to have happened in the 20 years that the cylons were behaving themselves, so it's likely development on the human cylons began sometime during the war.

Or something...

AngleWyrm · #3 November 26th, 2006, 05:42 PM

Cylon evolution?

Maybe the first generation built a better cylon, which built a better cylon, which built their god. And god built the skin jobs.

Atrocities · #4 November 26th, 2006, 10:07 PM

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AngleWyrm said:
Cylon evolution?

Maybe the first generation built a better cylon, which built a better cylon, which built their god. And god built the skin jobs.

So why are the metal jobs still mindless drones? No there�s more to the story than simple robotic evolution here. We don't really know what the real story is behind the cylon revolution. Were they all the old chrome domes that achieved sentience? If so then why didn't they pass that down to their later metal robotic versions? I really cannot see a cylon, even the old ones, working as a housekeeper. Where did they get arms? Who was the first alive cylon or the first to become sentient? Was it a chrome dome working in some home as a maid or was it a military version used to fight against humans in the colonies?

What is the story behind sentient cylon case 1?
Was that cylon a metal version or a more humanoid resembling model?
How did the sentience spread to other cylons?
What were the cylons being used for that caused to become hostile upon achieving sentience?
Who led the cylons into rebellion and beyond?
What cylon later developed war machines and human versions?
Where are all of the old versions? Were they scrapped or mothballed?
Who is the cylon God?
Is this cylon God really a human? Could this God of theirs be behind the entire cylon evolution from plain old inanimate object to sentient mass murdering homicidal robot?

These questions are all valid and beg to be answered. The mystery needs to be unveiled. The story must be told.

Randallw · #5 November 27th, 2006, 12:04 AM

Athena said the Centurions are limited in their programming, so they don't rise up against the human models.

It raises the question of since the metals must have made the human forms, how did the human forms come to rule over the metals.

Of course there might be a main cylon somewhere, not human form, that runs things. An "Imperious leader" of sorts. I can see them avoiding such a name but perhaps, as an homage to the original, a human form might sarcastically refer to it as "Our Imperious leader"

Atrocities · #6 November 27th, 2006, 12:33 AM

Wouldn't it just be wicked evil if that Imperious Leader was a very old Baltar? He wanted to find a way to transfer his soul into machine so that he could live forever and in doing so created the first sentient cylons and later the human versions?

That would explain a lot about Baltar and Six.

Hugh Manatee · #7 November 27th, 2006, 12:42 AM

My crackpot birth of the cylon theories:

A: When the colonials say "cylon" I kinda think they mean it the same way when we say "robot". Any man made AI automoton would have been called a cylon, weather it was a armed securty centurion or an auto dishwasher bot.

B: In efforts to improve the capabilities of "cylons" they keep improving their AIs, not realizing that if they make then sentient they may seek independance. Furthermore it sounds like, from what I can recall of the miniseries prmier, they also had a large network not entirely unlike the internet linking all technology together. The colonials probably built a "sky-net" cylon, it got PO'd and h4x0r3D the cylons with it's own sentience program, war and chaos ensues ending ith the cylons retreating from the planets. Whatever sentience sent them haywire in the first place is possibly their "god" or invented their god for their AI to believe in, and seeing ahead decided to produce the retard chrome domes we have now to lessen the chance of rebellion.

C: We saw one of the original Cylon Centurion models in a museum exibit on the galactica, so we know that they've been upgrading themselves. Perhaps the 5 original models were horrific failures or maybe they did rebel and this is why we have shortbus toasters now and zealot skin jobs. I recall from the OBSG that the lucifer and other "clear plastic pinheaded stuffed with christmas lights with blinking wax lips" were kinda baskstabbing and one upping in nature, maybe they will use it.

Atrocities · #8 November 27th, 2006, 12:45 AM

"Hunny why is the dish washer bot holding my gu----"

I know what they became alive! Some sick *** demented women wanted to be free of her over loving rich husbands oppressive care so she hot wired her chrome toaster and programed it to kill. In doing so she accidently gave it living intelligence thus making it sentient.