What's going on with SUPPLY?

President_Elect_Shang · #1 November 27th, 2006, 01:38 AM

Thanks Mr. Toxin that was going to be my next question. Are the ships not filling up at all or are they filling up slowly? How slowly? Like a number that when multiplied by all the other ships equals 500 or 1000? Of course your current tech level in StarShip Support will affect this number. Anyway what I am trying to drive at is this. If the number comes out to 1000 (give a little depending a level) than all is good. If it is 500 and those same ships are parked in orbit it could mean there is a bug causing the �Remote Supply Distribution� ability to override the �Supply Generation� ability shorting ships in orbit and by extension all other ships in the system. Check it out and let us know what number your math produces.

And what version of SE5 are you using and are you using nay Mods?

StarJack · #2 November 27th, 2006, 02:02 AM

Hmmm, is that covered in the manual? Page 29 says resupply is instant? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to add up, the remaining supply to be filled? The ships are filling up slowly, except for the refits, they just keep sittin there. I have about 25 ships in the system, 20 in a task force, the refits are by themselves. No mods, but I'm wondering if this is something that can be fixed with a mod. I haven't downloaded any because the game has had so many issues and my time is limited and I'm still trying to learn the interface.

It almost seems like someone forgot this game was supposed to be fun, not tedious. I don't want to have to use a calculator to determine how much supply I'm going to get.

President_Elect_Shang · #3 November 27th, 2006, 02:14 AM

Take a look at a ship, preferably one orbiting a planet with a resupply depot. Record the current supply amount then process a turn. Go to the same ship and look at the new supply amount. Subtract to find the difference. Post (a) the difference you got here and post (b) the number of ships in orbit around the same planet with the ship you picked and (c) the number of ships in the system at the end of the turn before you processed the turn.

Manual? I haven�t read a manual for this game yet! And I have been playing it since the late days of SE2! Was there a manual back then, there was a tutor/helper but I don�t recall a manual. Anyway it may not be in the manual, I am a modder and work under the hood, not off the books!

StarJack · #4 November 27th, 2006, 03:25 AM

Well I got all but about 12 ships out of the system. The 3 I retrofitted are still sitting there with 0 supplies. Surely your not saying only 500-1000 supplies are available per system? Please tell me your not saying that. I'm at starship support level 5 and resupply level 6.

StarJack · #5 November 27th, 2006, 03:33 AM

OK, I just looked at the facility, says it generates 1100 supplies per turn is that for ALL ships in orbit, or per ship in orbit? I have that sick, disgusting feeling that it's total, since my refits have been sitting there for over 10 turns without getting any supply.

Baron Grazic · #6 November 27th, 2006, 02:34 AM

Hi StarJack.
Resupply is instant, but it does not give you instant full supplies. The Resupply Facility only gives you a certain amount of supplies. Check the Resupply Facility for details.
You said you were retro-fitting your ships? If your new ships have newer engines, then most (all?) of your supplies vanish with the old engines.
I learned this the hard way. If you retro-fit your engines, move the supplies to the planet first...

PS. Cheat code for resupply = ~restoresupplies~

President_Elect_Shang · #7 November 27th, 2006, 02:44 AM

Resupply is instant; in what way? Do you mean automatic?

Suicide Junkie · #8 November 27th, 2006, 03:32 AM

Check your planet's cargo, and see how much supply they have available.

If you sucked them dry when you arrived, you could either move the ships, or order them to load (under cargo) supplies from the planet.

The resupply depot will distribute a small number of supplies as noted before, each turn to ships anywhere in the system. It will also push an unlimited number of supplies to ships entering and/or leaving the hex. (Limited only by the planetary storage amount)

StarJack · #9 November 27th, 2006, 03:41 AM

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Suicide Junkie said:
Check your planet's cargo, and see how much supply they have available.

If you sucked them dry when you arrived, you could either move the ships, or order them to load (under cargo) supplies from the planet.

The resupply depot will distribute a small number of supplies as noted before, each turn to ships anywhere in the system. It will also push an unlimited number of supplies to ships entering and/or leaving the hex. (Limited only by the planetary storage amount)

OK I checked the planet and it's out of supplies. The ships can only move one hex a turn so moving them will take ages. I'm probably misunderstanding your load cargo comment since the planet has no supplies? And yes the retrofit involved new engines, should I receive a supply penalty for upgrading engines? I need to dump supplies planet side before retrofitting! I hope that's a bug. Jeeze, I guess I need to build a resupply base on every planet now. This seems bloody tedious.

Thanks for all your help guys, I'll say it again, this forum saves this game. You guys should be sharing in whatever profits there are.

Suicide Junkie · #10 November 27th, 2006, 04:20 AM

I meant in the case of draining the supplies when you arrived, but then rebuilding more in the meantime without giving them to the ships...

If you have another planet around somewhere, you could transfer all the supplies onto one or a few ships. Just enough to get them to the nearest other planet with supply. then they could fill up there, and carry the extra supplies back to the fleet.

You could also build a dedicates supply tanker, to shuttle supplies up from the core systems of your empire.