Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?

[B0rsuk]

mivayan said:

Dominions: Priests, Prophets & Pretenders

Oh, come on. You know I'm being overly sarcastic.
Was there anything particularly overpowered in Dominions:PPP ?

[Strages Sanctus]

Massive armies of flying monkeys raised on prune juice

[Ozymandias]

PAir Elementals, POrder, & Patrolling maybe?

[B0rsuk]

Oh, now I remember something. I heard there was an 'Attack Commanders' order. I remember someone mentioning you were required to have a staff of storms just to keep your mages alive.

[Teraswaerto]

B0rsuk said:
Oh, now I remember something. I heard there was an 'Attack Commanders' order. I remember someone mentioning you were required to have a staff of storms just to keep your mages alive.

You could just stick your commanders inside the main troop formations to protect them from fliers, although Amulets of Missile Protection were pretty mandatory.

A few things I remember in addition to those are that Gateway worked like Astral Travel, and that scouts could be used to hunt blood slaves. Sphinx could & did Teleport.

[Gandalf Parker]

I have not disagreed with everyone. There is a definate agreement amoung a large number of players that there is a problem here for MP, small maps, no victory conditions. Thats probably why the devs are interested in hearing some suggestions (and why the thread is not locked).

When I say IF I mean that its possible that the DEVS will agree it needs a fix. Any suggestions that wont do too much damage to other methods of play will get considered Im sure. So keep the suggestions coming. Lets not decalre the game broken, and lets not fill the thread with comments about other people.

[Kristoffer O]

Hi, and thanks. It's been a while since I inspected the development of this thread. I'm glad about how it turned out. Perhaps some heat, but interesting reading.

We were aware thet the vanir were powerful when we released the game. This thread and earlier experiences confirm this.

Vanheim will not lose glamour. Nor will it lose +25 stealth as stealth is linked to glamour. It was in dom2 as well, but wasn't explicit IIRC.

There will probably be some kind of change, but initially rather minor, like the oni cost change.

If you like you can continue discussions here, but I will not follow it unless notified for some reason.

Thanks!

[Sandman]

My suggestion: take away Vanheim's starting fortified city and replace it with something more modest. Not a big change, but it would slow them down a little bit.

[Graeme Dice]

Kristoffer O said:
There will probably be some kind of change, but initially rather minor, like the oni cost change.

I think that a gold or resource cost change is probably all that is necessary.

[Ozymandias]

I just discovered that indy Crystal Amazons have defense 19 sacred flying cavalry, so Van and Helhirdling aren't the only sacreds with that kind of defense. I'm starting think that a modest price increase for Helhirdlings and Van of both eras is sufficient.