"Master of Magic" Mod

Zarkon · #1 January 18th, 2007, 07:57 PM

Another one of the big differences is that Master of Magic has city building and development. Sure, it might not seem like a big deal now, when, if you're like me, you've played through as every race several times, but I remember quite well the first time I built that pegasus stable... In Master of Magic, with good planning you can locate a city by an adamantium vein and create an army with which no one can compete!

Originally I played Master of Magic on a 486sx and I also remember quite well the first time I played it on a pentium, watching that same pegasus' head bob up and down at hyper speed......

Heh heh, Dominions also has working multiplayer.

aku666 · #2 January 19th, 2007, 03:44 PM

Yes, you're right. But I wasn't comparing these two great games. I was merely saying, that I had more fun playing MoM years ago, than I have playing Dom right now (it doesn't mean I don't have fun with Dom, I love it

).
I didn't try modding it but maybe later, when the exams are over and I'll have some more time, I'll try.
Ps. I don't like multiplayer games, the only one I've played is Quake and that was a long time ago ;P

Zarkon · #3 January 20th, 2007, 01:00 AM

Y'know I have to agree with you, I had more fun with Master of Magic than any other game...with the possible exceptions of XCOM UFO defence, the original HOMM & Masters of Orion 2. For Dominions 3 to be in their exalted company is quite the honor.

HoneyBadger · #4 January 20th, 2007, 03:15 AM

I've got an idea as following along the line of thinking that Dom3 does not give the same "personalized experience" as MoM (where your wizard progresses in power, along with your heroes).

First of all: can someone confirm for me the theory that it's possible to mod in spells which cost from 10-15 path levels in the 8 paths of magic to cast them? As far as I know, no spell requires 10 or more Paths currently, but it's possible to Empower up to level 15 in any given Path.

If this can be confirmed, you could then use Empowerment in a heavily modified mod (it'd have to be heavily modified for the sake of balance, and because many spells should to be added to retain interest in gameplay) wherein your Pretender (or potentially others, but mainly your Pretender) could cast spells requiring said Pretender to be Empowered to Path levels 11-15. In order to do this, you'd probably want to eliminate or move the Wish spell and other high-level spells, and possibly make less accessible path level enhancing magic items, as well as adding to, and adjusting, the current spell-list so that spells go from Level 1-15 in Path Power instead of the current 1-9.

This would feasably enable Pretender "progression" in a meaningful way and potentially make Empowerment an integral and vital part of the game.

Taqwus · #5 January 22nd, 2007, 03:57 PM

...but if you make it harder to boost paths with items, and remove Wish... how do you expect anybody to justify the cost to reach level *15* ?

The number of design points to reach the upper magic levels tends to be pretty harsh, at least in the vanilla game with no base magic level of 4+. The number of gems for empowerment at that level might be better thrown into summons or globals.

Manuk · #6 January 22nd, 2007, 05:29 PM

I don't think the pretender as an AD&D character that has to lvl up.
Having lvl 15 in a path can make the casting of a lvl 9 spell in battle cost less fatigue and adds penetration because of the exceeding difference.

HoneyBadger · #7 January 22nd, 2007, 05:56 PM

I think you're right, Taqwus, especially about the boosting items, but do you think Wish should stay where it is at level 9 astral?

Manuk, just suggesting a way to simulate a Pretender that grows in power over time. Level 15 is, I believe, already in the game, so I'm just harnessing what's already present and exploitable.