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February 1st, 2007, 10:35 AM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
The original front turret HEAT armour of 180 comes from the previous official versions of SPMBT game oobs. I donīt exactly remember what version it was, maybe SPMBT v.1.5 or earlier(not WinSPMBT). This old varsion gave Leo 2A5 front turret steel of 89 and HEAT of 180 (in the german oob and others too). Also the the 2A4 had front turret steel of 64 and now in WinSPMBT it has 70. So what I am thinking is that when GER OOB was changed to Leo2A4 front turret steel of 70, some of the oobs was not corrected, because I see that some were. Also the side armors are differing from the GER Leo2A4, and if somebody has made modifications.. well I donīt know.
But my point is that this must be a OOB check error, that happened when it was decided by you developers that Leo2A5 MBT frontal HEAT armors were too thick, and has remained since.
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February 1st, 2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
OK it's on the to do list and if ANYONE has a top view of the Swiss Leo 2 turret please forward it
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February 1st, 2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
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February 1st, 2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
The first one is good. It gives me a better idea of what's going on up on top than I have found so far
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February 3rd, 2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
I've got a nice link - view from behind...
http://www.leo2.ch/index_1.1.htm
By the way the modifications in my oob are manly about waepon and not the armor - that's because I know a Swiss army weapon mechanic... and the dates of assignment.
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February 3rd, 2007, 02:44 PM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
Big mufflers. I guess people were complaining about the noise eh ?
Or do the Swiss like "steathy" tanks  ?
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February 3rd, 2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: Leopard 2A4 and 2A5 inconsistency
Yea, They are the only tanks (in the world I think) to comply with the European noise regulation. 
(For normal road trafic)
By the way I checked the old DOS version of SPIIMB; for a 2A4 it was a max armor of 90 and the 2A5 was 120 -- but that was an other time... 
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