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Old February 4th, 2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: OT: VISTA

Eclipse is an IDE, not just a text editor. It is nice software, but generally overkill.

IMO, vim is a monstrosity, ancient or no. I find the fundamental control scheme to be ridiculous.

Here's hoping "Astra" won't be a bloated flop like Trillian 3 was.
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You don't like Esc-Shift-Z-Z?
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Old February 4th, 2007, 09:16 PM
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You can get lots of cool games for Linux like Free Civ
FreeCiv is the only 4x game except for FreeOrion, who's progress can charitably described as "glacial".

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Doom 3 runs on Linux. As do other id Software titles, such as the Quake series.
And the Unreal series. Linux is in fact better served for FPS games than it is for detailed stratagy games.
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Old February 4th, 2007, 09:31 PM
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You don't like Esc-Shift-Z-Z?
Ack! Kill it kill it kill it!!!

Who thought up that key combo? A demented platform fighter addict?
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You don't like Esc-Shift-Z-Z?
Ack! Kill it kill it kill it!!!

Who thought up that key combo? A demented platform fighter addict?
It's actually quite simple. The vi editor was designed to be used in a console window, with complete lack of pointer control (e.g., a mouse... sorry Narf ). So, the ESC key is just to ensure that you are in command-mode (as opposed to text mode, where doing just Shift-Z-Z would insert two capital Zs wherever the cursor happened to be). Then, IIRC, command ZZ writes the buffer if it has changed, and quits.

But really, the only basic commands you need to know to use vi are:
Esc - get into command mode
Then, once you're in command mode:
i - insert: go into text mode, begin inserting characters at the cursor
:w - write: write the buffer to file
q - quit
h - move cursor left
j - move cursor down
k - move cursor up
l - move cursor right
x - delete: delete the character at the cursor

Really just a few days using it are enough to get a feel for the basics, and start into more advanced things like yy (yank, AKA copy), and p (put, AKA paste) to and from buffers, using the /, s/, g/, etc regular expression commands... it's an absolute lifesaver if you're ever going to encounter a variety of UNIX-y systems, since they are all pretty much guaranteed to have either vi or vim installed.

--edit: almost forgot about the other "real" editor Fyron was looking for... even though it doesn't get any more real than vi
Check out the Scintilla Text Editor (SciTE). It's my "notepad replacement" for Windows, it also has a version for linux. Syntax highlighting for several different languages, brace matching, decent settings tweaking available via GUI, much more powerful tweaking through config files, has option for plaintext search/replace as well as regular expression search/replace, and a bunch of other goodies for programmers.
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Default Re: OT: VISTA

My sister rang me up the other day to tell me she can get the education edition of Vista cheaper. What features would this have? Microsoft doesn't have it in their list which leads me to think it's one of the versions but cheaper for people in education.
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What exactly does Vista do with regards to DRM that's different than previous OS's, for example, XP??
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I never said vim and emacs were not real, just that they are horrible from a usability perspective. This SciTE looks interesting...
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