Galciv2: Dark Avatar gets a 9.0 in IGN

Raapys · #1 February 16th, 2007, 08:08 PM

I don't see SE as a very suitable game for multiplayer, really. PBW simply doesn't appeal to most (younger?) players since you get a limited number of turns to play each day, which isn't good enough if you've got several hours to fill. And the game is too time-demanding for real-time multiplayer, both in regards to waiting for other players to finish their turn, and the hours it takes to actually play a game.

This is why I think AI, UI and turn processing times are the most important factors for SE V right now.

GC2 has got at least two of those things right, the AI and turn processing, but that game is lacking in so many other areas, and the direction they've chosen to take the game in has alot less potential than the direction SE is heading in. So I wouldn't really put it up as much of a competitor for SE, gameplay-wise.

AAshbery76 · #2 February 17th, 2007, 12:33 AM

I have seen no evidence of cheating in GC2, it's usually weak players who make these claims.

President_Elect_Shang · #3 February 17th, 2007, 01:14 AM

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AAshbery76 said:
I have seen no evidence of cheating in GC2, it's usually weak players who make these claims.

I don't see how calling Renegade 13 or anyone else a weak player is called for. Your opinion is welcomed but you do not need to insult others to get your point across. Saying a player is weak because they raise a concern about the AI is speculation on your part anyway.

Fyron · #4 February 17th, 2007, 06:11 AM

Raapys said:
I don't see SE as a very suitable game for multiplayer, really.

Completely disagree. It is, in my experience, perfect for multiplayer play. I have/had no problems with PBW as a "younger player," having picked up SE4 for exclusive multiplayer play when I was 16. There have been a lot of "younger players" around here active in PBW over the years. Its more a matter of temperament than age.

Nothing says you can't fill the extra time available for gaming after you play your PBW turns with some single player gaming. There is certainly no either/or situation.

Combat Wombat · #5 February 17th, 2007, 05:38 PM

Also you can get in like 10 PBW games so your playing new turns all the time.

Azselendor · #6 February 17th, 2007, 09:33 PM

Raapys, I think you're really mistaken about the PBW. It's creation is what fuels a lot of play in SE. Most people who use the PBW, play multiple games at the same time.

Plus don't make a 95% statistic without first conducting an online poll

Raapys · #7 February 17th, 2007, 11:16 PM

I didn't exactly make a 95% statistic: I said, if I were to venture a guess.

I'm not sure what you mean by me being mistaken about PBW. Do you suggest that I am wrong about how many people are playing it?

If that is the case, and while there's always the possibility that I am gravely mistaken, remember that though a part of the players on the forums are going to be playing PBW, the biggest part of all non-multiplayer-only games' player bases are casual players who will most probably never visit the forums, let alone find out what and where PBW is, register, and then start playing it.

Thus I consider SE primarily a single-player game, whereas I'd consider a game such as Half-life and its mods more of a multiplayer game. In SE only the 'hardcore' players, like us here on the forums, are going to consider PBW, while in Half-life everyone and their cat can press the 'multiplayer' option, join a game and have fun.

That's how I see it, anyway. It's not like I have documented facts to back it up, so let's just agree to disagree on this very off-topic subject.

Renegade 13 · #8 February 17th, 2007, 08:19 AM

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Raapys said:
I don't see SE as a very suitable game for multiplayer, really. PBW simply doesn't appeal to most (younger?) players since you get a limited number of turns to play each day...

I'm with Fyron on this one; I believe it's a question of temperment, rather than age (as with many things). I began playing SEIV at about age 15 or 16, and started playing multiplayer shortly after. Much more fun when interacting with real people, and the number of turns per day really didn't factor into it. Fewer turns was actually kind of nice, having school to attend

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AAshbery76 said:
I have seen no evidence of cheating in GC2, it's usually weak players who make these claims.

You are entitled to that opinion, as I'm entitled to my opinion that you're an ***.

You do not and can not know the reasons behind my belief that it cheats; therefore your statement is utterly meaningless, yet insulting at the same time.

Raapys · #9 February 17th, 2007, 11:20 AM

Well, whether you disagree or not about how well-suited it is for multiplayer, the point still stands: PBW doesn't appeal to most players( I am not disputing the fact that it's tons more fun to play against human players ).

If I were to venture a guess, I'd say somewhere around 95% of the player base will never touch PBW( usually, only the minority of players even partake or visit the forums ), making it largly a single-player game.