Another experimental game

Meglobob · #1 February 17th, 2007, 04:21 PM

Sounds like a really great idea Dr Praetorious.

I very much like the fact you have definite enemies and allies.

However, all Dom3 nations are not exactly balanced vs each another which could be a problem. Helheim vs Marverni for example.

Also it does favour diplomacy/co-operation very, very strongly. Example if 1&5 work closely together to eliminate 2, well 4&6 don't bother with diplomacy. Well 1&5 have a huge advantage.

DrPraetorious · #2 February 17th, 2007, 05:49 PM

There are several nations which are somewhat weak, especially on face-hugger maps. Marverni is, in spite of their excellent mages, I think probably the weakest EA position overall. Ermor also has excellent mages and their military is much better.

Incidentally, this is my face-hugging scale for EA. Water nations are a distinct category.

(Most face-hugging)
Niefelheim
Helheim
Abysia
Mictlan
Lanka
Agartha
Sauromatia
Vanheim
Yomi
Pangaea
Arcoscephale
T'ien Ch'i
Kailasa
Caelum
Ermor
Ulm
C'tis
Marverni
(Least face-hugging)

Okay, baseline - T'ien Ch'i is not that good a face hugger, but as T'ien Ch'i you have a respectable chance of repeling any rush. Maybe not a 50:50 chance, but you have a real chance of winning so that's okay.

So even in a hate-your-neighbors situation like this, there are 13 perfectly respectable positions to play. I don't see a problem.

Meglobob · #3 February 17th, 2007, 06:16 PM

Yea, I pretty much agree with your face-hugging list or alternatively most powerful to weakest EA nations, my list would be similar to yours. Although later in the game alot of those lower down become the most powerful later on, like T'ien Ch'i, if they can survive the early game.

I suppose map size will influence nation selection.

Hellboy · #4 February 17th, 2007, 09:52 PM

At the risk of being called a noob, might I ask what "face hugging" means?

DrPraetorious · #5 February 17th, 2007, 09:59 PM

Face huggers are the things that come out of the eggs in Alien (the movie.)

So, if you are "face hugging", the first thing you see, you indiscriminately attack it.

FrankTrollman · #6 February 18th, 2007, 04:29 AM

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Gandalf Parker · #7 February 18th, 2007, 12:21 PM

Excellent explanation.

Hellboy · #8 February 20th, 2007, 10:10 PM

Thanks for the explanation on Face Hugging guys - both were helpful, but Frank the extra background was especially informative.

Frank (or anyone), when you're talking about Abysian capital only sacred troops being "essentially undefeatable" I guess I was a little bit surprised. In my experience (which is admittedly quite limited), I found the low defense and high expense of the burning ones a problem.

Even w/ their high prot, they still ended up afflicted at an alarming rate. Does everyone go w/ a water blessing to compensate? Or have I just not seen all that they can offer, water blessing or no?