OT: Season 3 BSG

AngleWyrm · #1 March 19th, 2007, 06:39 PM

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Azselendor said:
Actually, I would say the series dipped right after Resurrection Ship 1 & 2 but I don't blame RDM directly

Near the end of Season Two, He stood upon his pile of poo, and enacted the tale of "Writers!? We don't need no steenkeen writers!". The ego-intoxicated Jack of All Trades went on to rediscover that, yes Virginia, "Jam Sessions" may have soul, but so does a well executed orchestra.

That was the beginning of the end. Self-Importance made an appearance in the form of Political Statement. We're so big we talk about national stuff--nevermind the tale. Then Tyranny set in, with the threat of firings, and so the Cylons were demoted from the realm of immortals (with genuine sci-fi interest) to just another 'them' that are also afraid to die. Just keeping the troops in line, I'de wager.

Without real material, the bottom-up scene assembly continued as a bluff of sorts. Mysteries began that had no finish. The blonde's adventure beyond the door of death promised to reveal a secret, but no joy. The woman left the show. The Eye of Jupiter was another mystery that didn't have any impact. The imperial social structure of 'born a miner, die a miner' was never resolved.

Baltar's "Am I a Cylon?" preview exhibited poor work in the editing room, and it looked like someone was pushing to make Baltar turn out to be a Cylon after all. Screw the characters. Nevermind that he made a Cylon detecter early in the first season. The Cylon Baltar didn't sell, and so the episode was a wierd cobbled together mishmash of dream scenes and whatnot, with a weak proof of humanity by behavior. The bad edits continue to be displayed in "Special Clips from the Cutting Room Floor" tacked on at the end. Commercial enterprise hard at work.

Ellen Tigh also left the show. And now it seems Kara Thrace has left as well. Rats, fleeing the sinking ship.

Atrocities · #2 March 19th, 2007, 06:50 PM

The whole show really took a nose dive with that whole new caprica bit. We lost something like a year of the show as the producers and writers tried to "re-invent" the series. They also needed to come up with a way to make Baltar a traitor and such. It really was a bad move even if they managed to give us a few cool episodes out of it. Overall though, it tanked the series.

Tim_Ward · #3 March 19th, 2007, 11:51 PM

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AngleWyrm said:

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Azselendor said:
Actually, I would say the series dipped right after Resurrection Ship 1 & 2 but I don't blame RDM directly

Near the end of Season Two, He stood upon his pile of poo, and enacted the tale of "Writers!? We don't need no steenkeen writers!". The ego-intoxicated Jack of All Trades went on to rediscover that, yes Virginia, "Jam Sessions" may have soul, but so does a well executed orchestra.

That was the beginning of the end. Self-Importance made an appearance in the form of Political Statement. We're so big we talk about national stuff--nevermind the tale. Then Tyranny set in, with the threat of firings, and so the Cylons were demoted from the realm of immortals (with genuine sci-fi interest) to just another 'them' that are also afraid to die. Just keeping the troops in line, I'de wager.

Without real material, the bottom-up scene assembly continued as a bluff of sorts. Mysteries began that had no finish. The blonde's adventure beyond the door of death promised to reveal a secret, but no joy. The woman left the show. The Eye of Jupiter was another mystery that didn't have any impact. The imperial social structure of 'born a miner, die a miner' was never resolved.

Baltar's "Am I a Cylon?" preview exhibited poor work in the editing room, and it looked like someone was pushing to make Baltar turn out to be a Cylon after all. Screw the characters. Nevermind that he made a Cylon detecter early in the first season. The Cylon Baltar didn't sell, and so the episode was a wierd cobbled together mishmash of dream scenes and whatnot, with a weak proof of humanity by behavior. The bad edits continue to be displayed in "Special Clips from the Cutting Room Floor" tacked on at the end. Commercial enterprise hard at work.

Ellen Tigh also left the show. And now it seems Kara Thrace has left as well. Rats, fleeing the sinking ship.

You just made that up.

Atrocities · #4 March 20th, 2007, 12:11 AM

very good read and accurate.

Randallw · #5 March 20th, 2007, 02:08 AM

I didn't think he made a real Cylon detector. He just made something up and then claimed to have developed one to get the suspicion off himself. In the mini-series he just got lucky when he framed a bloke he didn't like much and that guy ended up being a Cylon.

MasterChiToes · #6 March 20th, 2007, 02:55 PM

Long long ago, I decided that everyone from the 12 colonies were Cylons... they are descended from the original Cylons from Kobol who destroyed the real humanity. Hopefully, the old and new Cylons will eventually team up and destroy Earth to make way for a hyperspace bypass.

Adama is the Imperius Leader!

I miss Iblis and the ancients from the original series... now that had plotz plot potential.

Atrocities · #7 March 20th, 2007, 04:27 PM

Could someone please explain to me what in the hell just happened in the last episode (19)? I cannot figure out what it was I just watched. Tye (sp) thinks the Galatica is a cylon now? Baltar is a religious icon? Lee Adama is a traitor, The president has cancer again and along with that she having visions, Caprica 6 is now a mind reader, and Adama wants Lee thrown in the brig! WTH! The episode made no sense what so ever! It was like watching an alcoholically induced bad dream. Hell I had a hang over after watching it.

AgentZero · #8 March 20th, 2007, 04:58 PM

Sounds like all kinds of madness! My usual torrent site didn't have episode 19 up for some reason, so I'm a little late in getting it, but I'm sure I'll have something insightful to say after I've watched it.

Will · #9 March 20th, 2007, 10:32 PM

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Could someone please explain to me what in the hell just happened in the last episode (19)? I cannot figure out what it was I just watched. Tye (sp) thinks the Galatica is a cylon now?

No, Tigh keeps hearing little snatches of music, which very few others around him seem to hear (it appears only Anders and Tori can hear it in this episode). It's driving him crazy, trying to find out where it's coming from. It's affecting Tori to a somewhat lesser extent, and Anders is occasionally distracted by it.

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Atrocities said:
Baltar is a religious icon?

Baltar's leaked book and his distinction of living among the Cylons without being killed may have something to do with the religious reverence. While he's hated by many in the fleet, just by speaking out against the power duo of Adama and Roslin, while being in the position of a martyr would gain him favor with a minority.

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Lee Adama is a traitor, The president has cancer again and along with that she having visions, Caprica 6 is now a mind reader, and Adama wants Lee thrown in the brig!

Lee is trying to escape his father's shadow by becoming his grandfather. He can't move higher in the military now than CAG, as long as his father lives. If he is to achieve anything more in his life, Lee needed to find a way to do it outside of the military. Since he's an idealist (see the episode introducing Tom Zarek), being part of Baltar's defense seems the perfect way for him to affect change and be something other than his father's son.

As for the President, I don't think it's so far-fetched that the cancer has returned. Survivors of cancer are at higher risk to later develop cancer again in the future. The visions would seem to be a side effect of her taking the hallucinatory drugs again.

And Caprica Six, I don't believe has any kind of mind reading abilities. She got a cue from her inner Baltar, and the more she went down that road, the more the reactions of Tigh gave her to say. I think she was talking as much about herself as she was of Tigh, since she believes that Baltar really is good as dead, and she'll soon have a gruesome death to deal with as well (before waking up again).

And I think the threat of throwing Lee and Baltar's lawyer in the brig was more because they were basically forcing his lady-friend to admit something deeply personal in public, again (similar to the first time she admitted she had cancer and was dying, only without the physical bars around her).

Also, if you listen closely to the teaser at the end, you hear Tori say "This isn't happening," and the Chief say "It's true... we're Cylons" as the music that Tigh, Anders, and Tori were hearing plays. Combine that with RDM saying that season 3 would see at least some of the Final Five revealed... well, there's only one episode left...

AngleWyrm · #10 March 20th, 2007, 06:29 PM

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Tim_Ward said:
You just made that up.

Well yes, sort of. It is my impression of the video blogs, and extra interviews from Sci-Fi Channel's Battlestar Galactica website taken together with what is happening in/to the series.

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Atrocities said:
very good read and accurate.

Thanks, I had time to edit

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Randallw said:
I didn't think he made a real Cylon detector.

Maybe; it wasn't entirely clear that he succeeded. He did spot Boomer as well, and the scene where Six tells him to request a nuke, he has an epiphany of understanding how it could work. So it seems possible that he succeeded. But then they undermined it with talking him out of testing the whole crew just cause it's easier. Also there was some talk of if he was a Cylon then his results could be a program of deception, so the detecter was basically neutered to keep the scare alive.