Balancing the blesses

johnarryn · #1 March 28th, 2007, 09:41 PM

I think it also needs to be kept in mind that some schools of magic are not as useful as others... for instance, most people would argue that the Water 9 bless is pretty amazing, but water magic itself is kind of meh. I hink there's a reason for that. The air bless isnt great, but then air magic is quite good.

Foodstamp · #2 March 28th, 2007, 09:52 PM

I agree with john. the schools that have subpar blesses are also the schools with some of the best magic spells. I think the bless system is fine as is. Its just a tad overpowering when used with certain units in the game.

Sombre · #3 March 28th, 2007, 10:02 PM

Yep, John raises a good point. I do sort of wish that the death and blood blesses were a tad more useful though. I like to play Mictlan with a Lord of the Night and the bless just ain't great.

Taqwus · #4 March 28th, 2007, 10:25 PM

It's usually the synergies that cause the balancing issues, anyway -- like MOO2's Stargate + Warp Dissipator.

You can't really just balance bits by bit -- because the units and nations they're applied to aren't mirror images. Mictlan and the Ashen Empire respond very differently to blesses, to take extreme examples.

Sombre · #5 March 28th, 2007, 10:38 PM

There's a certain amount you can do just balancing bit by bit. For instance some units are clearly underpowered, to the extent that they are never built by anyone looking to win. These units can be improved and all it will increase is variety - it won't make a certain nation overpowered.

Not sure that theory can be applied to blesses though.

TirAsleen · #6 March 28th, 2007, 10:46 PM

Playing around with fire, i do not see many weaknesses, very good bless, an enchantment that can turn archery fire into fire arrows, one that makes you immortal in combat, very powerful evocation magic(Falling Fire). Is all kinda useful. Water....well cleansing water was good vs undead.

I do not know many impressive spells for water yet... I rather go with fire.

Maybe a weakness of fire is, you can't forge any good armor with it.

Xietor · #7 March 28th, 2007, 10:57 PM

Fire is clearly the best bless. E9 is not one of the best. 4 prot? That means zip really. Especially when you are being hit by f9 blessed troops with 2 attacks.

N9 is also very good, mostly because regen plus berserk is very powerful.

Water is good on some units that need the quickness.

Air needs help, earth needs help, Astral 9 needs help. never play blood , so no input there.

D9 is "ok" but d9<f9 imho.

Foodstamp · #8 March 28th, 2007, 11:00 PM

I don't think fire 9 is clearly the best bless.

Morkilus · #9 March 29th, 2007, 02:48 PM

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Xietor said:
Fire is clearly the best bless. E9 is not one of the best. 4 prot? That means zip really. Especially when you are being hit by f9 blessed troops with 2 attacks.

N9 is also very good, mostly because regen plus berserk is very powerful.

Water is good on some units that need the quickness.

Air needs help, earth needs help, Astral 9 needs help. never play blood , so no input there.

D9 is "ok" but d9<f9 imho.

Why don't you play the game the way it is first, discuss what may or may not work with some experienced players and maybe win some MP games? You can't be taken seriously when you haven't even played with every path and come in here spouting suggestions for "improving" the game.