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April 16th, 2007, 12:51 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
You can remove all the bombs and say they cannot be used becasue the Polititians said so and I will say that in the event of a major conflict there would be bombs and missles attached to hardpoints faster that you could say " I didn't think they could do that"
If you want to emasculate the Austrian airforce it's your OOB but the GAME is designed to recreate warfare not "air policing" and I can assure you when the patch is released the new Swiss OOB has an airforce with full functionality for theoretical combat.
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April 16th, 2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
You seem to misunderstand this - there are no bombs in storage, let alone advanced A/G munitions. So what is in storage will be available for conflict, and we are trying to include this, even though no peacetime training has been done with it, alright, but all other things are just fiction.
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April 16th, 2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
ANYTHING we project beyond today is "just fiction"
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April 16th, 2007, 01:09 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
OK, about the Typhoon: The first aircraft is already being test-flown in Manching/Germany with the manufacturer and must be delivered in June, according to the contract - 4 Typhoons are to be delivered in 2007 in total, the remaining 12 in 2008-2009; check http://www.airpower.at/; So June should be fine, but with NO A/G weapons whatsoever of course; (these are Tranche 1 aircraft anyway); Political developments on this issue are changing every day, however, so there might be changes, but we'll see; for game purposes leave June '07;
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April 16th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
An aircraft in this game "with NO A/G weapons whatsoever" is usless and will not be added regardless of contract delivery dates.
Also..... I deal with 92 OOB's and hundreds of thousands of bits of information in them. However, if I had every last bit of information at my figertips I would work for Janes and make more money with lot's less aggravation. Please explain what I'm supposed to make of .."these are Tranche 1 aircraft anyway"
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April 16th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
......AND when they will be fully operational.
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April 16th, 2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
"An aircraft in this game "with NO A/G weapons whatsoever" is useless and will not be added regardless of contract delivery dates."
Don,
This is almost certainly the case with Austria's Typhoons. Air-to-Ground weaponry (other than internal gun) will not be fitted for a few years yet.
"Tranche 1" means the first production batch, btw.
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April 16th, 2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
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An aircraft in this game "with NO A/G weapons whatsoever" is usless and will not be added regardless of contract delivery dates.
Also..... I deal with 92 OOB's and hundreds of thousands of bits of information in them. However, if I had every last bit of imformation at my figertips I would work for Janes and make more money with lot's less aggravation. Please explain what I'm supposed to make of .."these are Tranche 1 aircraft anyway"
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The Tranche 1 aircraft are the first production version which don't (yet) include the systems needed to use AG ammo.
They are, like planned in the design, pure fighters.
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April 16th, 2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
"Air-to-Ground weaponry (other than internal gun) will not be fitted for a few years yet."
Could they carry dumb bombs, at least in a pinch?
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April 17th, 2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: Austrian OOB - J35 Draken OSD
Probably not, Marcello. The Austrians are going through a strong pacifist phase, and their Typhoons cannot even carry underwing fuel tanks: this prevents them being used "offensively".
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