Boiling the Ocean (Started, needs alternate?)

[DrPraetorious]

May I suggest the following addendum to the .map file? It ensures a reasonable spacing of start positions.
I can also make the neighbours of these start sites site-rich and large, if you wish to use such a change.

Code:

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-perl -f BalancedWater.pl 4 3 < "Boiling the Ocean.map"

#start 374

#start 22

#start 35

#start 165

#start 137

#start 88

#start 239

-- sea start

#start 205

#start 122

#start 245

#start 23

#start 57

#start 190

#start 98

#start 142

#start 252

#start 288

#start 53

#start 286

-- sea start

#start 304

#start 340

#start 369

#start 346

#start 334

#start 355

-- found 25 start sites.

-- 269 is isolated from 25 start positions.

---

[K]

I'd like to play,. kazthefirst@yahoo.com I'll also trade someone for their Lanka position.

[carlosib]

K i'm playing Lanka and would have no problem trading nations as long as the other players think it's fair (we would be breaking the "random nations" spirit of the game).

[AdmiralZhao]

I would love to take Lanka from you. Sweet, sweet Lanka...

[Herbacious]

I'd just like to state that DrPraetorious changes to the map seem good to me.

[Sensori]

Well, even though I guess you may think I'm sort of a buzzkill, I don't think it's fair. I don't play lots with EA Vanheim but I'm going to go with it anyway. If all the people were going to start switching to nations they're good with... It'd make the whole random spirit of the game meaningless, and turn it into a game where people have chosen their nashuns themselves.

Yes, I seriously doubt it'd end with just you guys switching.

Oh yeah, I noticed that at least normally the game won't let you have more than 9 starting provinces. Is there a way to get around it or are we going to use nine? Or do we start with 1 province as per usual and try to get our share of the 400 or so provinces? That's the "if" that will determine what kind of a Pretender at least I will use. The original post says, and I quote, "20 players with about 20 territories per player", so I'm a bit confused. :/

EDIT: And I second the post above. DrPraetorious's edits wouldn't hurt, would they?

[Nix]

I think 20 provinces per player just means there's a total amount of 20 x # of players provinces. You start off with one prov but basically have 20 to expand into before you need to seriously deal with your neighbors.

[Sensori]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of until I started overanalyzing things (this is never a good thing) and basically reading between the lines when there was nothing there... And then I started nitpicking in my head that some people might not manage to get 20 because of excessively strong indies next to them and blah blah blah unless they were given 20 at the start, and then, in the end, I managed to totally confuse myself.

And I don't think any nashun is excessively overpowered or anything, all tend to have their ups and downs. Some are really strong at the beginning while others equal and surpass them in other parts of the game. And... Helheim is more overpowered than Vanheim, they have Valkyries in EA! Valkyries own your pants off.

[carlosib]

Ok, no nation trading then, lets keep it random. And I have nothing against Lanka, i've never played them so i'm yet to find their strong and weak points.

[AdmiralZhao]

From everything I've read, Vanheim is even more overpowered than Lanka. So, I would be willing to trade for them too.

Carlosib, why do you want to trade away Lanka? They are a very strong nation.