Parganos game for 6 players (running)

[st.patrik]

I guess I see it in a different light given the context of very heated communication and name-calling that occured earlier in the game over e-mail between Tuidjy and myself.

After a serious personal (and it was most certainly personal) conflict the comments take on a different light - especially when the previous trouble (which was a misunderstanding) is something I am blamed for in these posts - like our earlier disagreement (and my subsequent 12 month peace) was trying to abuse the situation. I find that offensive.

I guess you guys seeing only one part could think this is just banter. I don't believe it to be so. It sours the game (for me) to have these kinds of things said.

I wish you guys well and I'm sorry if Man being AI screws with the game. Honestly I think the AI is not that smart - you should be able to succeed against me pretty well I should think. Plus which the numbers of troops under my command on C'tis's borders was hugely exagerated - not even close to 1500 and 100 mages. I had 4 army groups, each with 200 troops and a handful of mages. So maybe 800 on the front lines and another 200 or so elsewhere.

All that to say, I think you guys will fare fine. The AI doesn't know how to deal with a well-planned human attack.

[Ewierl]

The problem is more that the AI doesn't do diplomacy. Do we have a master password with the power to put in a sub instead of AI? Or is the AI decision irreversible?

[ajr]

I don't believe I can reverse a switch to AI, even with the master password (in fact, as far as I know the only thing that the master password allows me to do is set a player to AI). With that said, I may be able to back things out manually - I have all of the turn files saved - but I don't have Man's password for a sub. st.patrik, would you be willing to give me your password?

[Tuidjy]

Ok, what is the status on the game? Are we looking for a replacement?
I think it is worth stopping the game until a player can be found.
This game has entered a very interesting stage, and an AI will completely
ruin the very fluid balance of power.

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And as for the accusations, I, as the player, believe that the original
alliance's meltdown started from a misunderstanding, but I also see that
Man only profited from the following events, and C'tis only suffered.

And I have to say, misunderstanding or not, 'My ally is getting too strong'
is not an honorable reason to break off an alliance. Neither is 'My
ally misrepresented his strength', especially as I offered to reveal my
archived turns after the game ended.

I also think there was NOTHING wrong with my propaganda. It looked as if
I was being attacked, I had nothing to throw in the way, and I needed to
make Man at least fear an intervention from the other players. I did my
best to make him believe that I was going to hit him with fire and disease,
and he pulled back under the Gift of Health. For all I know it worked.
I got two turns in which I may be able to reinforce my capital.

The real diplomacy was done on an one to one basis, and the public posting was
mostly because I felt like putting the 'Help me because he'll be unstoppable'
message in role-playing terms.

[Arghaii]

The problem with you guys is that you talk too much out of character. If you could just completely forget that you are sitting on a chair in front of a computer and just behave and interact as if you were actual rulers of actual factions all this situation would had been avoided.

The fact that I was a replacement to an existing nation and that my predecessor had a silly strategy did lots to decrease my playing satisfaction.
Now that I see people dropping the game, I can tell you that it's not helping to improve it at all.

However I trust that we have a good group of players and that we may organize more games such as this in the future.

[ajr]

(I'm holding off on my turn for a bit until I can sort out what's going on with Man, one way or the other)

[Tuidjy]

Seconded. Lets try to find a replacement for Man. The game just would
not be fun with an AI that position. It should not be TOO hard to find
someone to take over a leader in a game, if only to play with a well
developed nation...

[Ewierl]

Agreed, I'm happy waiting for a replacement.

[Ewierl]

Oh, even better!

Is our new Man recieving email updates from the server about the new turn? Now he's the one holding us up for days

[Tuidjy]

Everyone seems to be stalling... I have my turn ready, but I see no point
in letting a game advance if main contenders like Man and Pangea are not
moving. Arj, you have backups for the turns... I suggest we, the players,
decide what we will do with the game.