Conceptual Balance (Discussion)

Xietor · #1 April 28th, 2007, 01:55 AM

they say great minds think alike!

Teraswaerto · #2 April 28th, 2007, 06:31 AM

Something to consider is that overall balance for a nation can not be reduced to comparing individual units. Infantry of Man may be inferior both in effectiveness and cost to that of many other nations, but does anyone think Man is a weak nation?

Dedas · #3 April 28th, 2007, 06:39 AM

Yes you have to have a holistic view if any balance is to be achieved in this game. It isn't a game of one unit pitted against another after all.

Sombre · #4 April 28th, 2007, 07:33 AM

I was just playing about with CB MA Ctis and I noticed that Heavy Infantry have one less morale than City Guard. I still think they're somewhat useful as a resource sink, but city guard are better basically (+1 morale, mapmove 2, lower resource cost). Interesting anyway :]

MaxWilson · #5 April 28th, 2007, 07:55 AM

You don't think Prot 16 (vs. 12 for City Guard) is worthwhile? I find Heavy Infantry mix nicely with Elite Warriors, except for the mapmove.

-Max

Dedas · #6 April 28th, 2007, 08:08 AM

Prot 16 is much better than 12 as a lot of weapons wielded by humans becomes pretty much worthless (unless you have huge fatigue that is). Spears for example, harm you almost every time when you have prot 12 and not to mention broad swords.

Sombre · #7 April 28th, 2007, 08:14 AM

I'm not saying they should be changed, just that I'm surprised to find the city guard to be better. I think the reason HI aren't doing very well for me is that I'm fighting against my mod nation Avernum and several of their units either deal relatively high damage or have armour piercing weapons.

I mostly go for heavier protection to avoid missile fire, but it didn't seem to be troubling my city guard that much.