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Old May 7th, 2007, 01:58 PM
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The MBT LAW apparently uses the same warhead (or one based on) as the Bofors Bill 2.

http://www.global-defence.com/2006/U...icle.php?id=30

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mbt_law/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBT_LAW

The RBS-56B Bill 2 weapon number 152 obat66 - Sweden has a heat penetration of 100, so my guess is that the MBT LAW should have a similar value.

It's an easy fix for anyone interested - just pop into MOBHACK and make the change =)

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I'll look into this in the fall

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OK, now I'm curious.
The Javelin (OOB 12 US Army and OOB 13 USMC, weapon 143) is also a top attack missile and has a HEAT Pen of 45.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Javelin actually have a higher warhead weight/penetration then the MBT LAW ?
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Well you guys have a few months to dig up the answer. I'll be interested to see what you find out

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FGM-184 Javelin

Warhead 8.4KG
Armour penetration >600 mm RHA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-148.html
http://warfare.ru/?catid=351&linkid=2527
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Quote:
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The MBT LAW apparently uses the same warhead (or one based on) as the Bofors Bill 2.
definitly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiIoT87Xts&NR=1 form Bofor itself...
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I'm inclined to think this is one of those cases where two different people came up with different answers to the same problem - How to "properly" represent top attack ATGM's.

Both obviously work, the question is - does one work "better" ?
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I would be interested in any source that gives a penetration number for the MBT-LAW or NLAW. Something that specifially states what it will do as so far I haven't found anything at all that says "this weapon will penetrate X mm of armour" Usually in cases like this we guess based on past weapons of similar types. The 150 pen of the MBT-LAW is not the most powerful top attack ATGM represented in the game. The "NT-D Dandy" or Spikes are ( but not all. The Israeli version are half what the other are and I suspect the Israeli values are closer to reality )so if anyones interested in this during the summer see what you can come up with for any of these missles as well and we'll review the info in the fall and make adjustments were required

Please try to avoid Wikipedia. I know it's tempting and much of the info is correct but the fact that anyone can edit it leaves it a bit "iffy" as a be all and end all source of information.

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