mid_Unlucky game on Gandalfs server (started)

[Micah]

Routed should keep working, dead should not.

[LoloMo]

Hmm, so if you cast a BE spell, then retreat, the spell would stay up the whole battle? Interesting.

Come out come out little demons wherever you are. Our tarts promise to play nice!

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LoloMo said:
Hmm, so if you cast a BE spell, then retreat, the spell would stay up the whole battle? Interesting.

I dunno, my opinion is that if you script this intentionally (cast & retreat, or just wield & retreat), it might fall under the "interestingly similar to an exploit" category. If the BE stops when you die, that means you need to be maintaining it, and if you flee to another province (or script returning) I don't think that should be possible. SP though -- fair game!

[Micah]

How is it an exploit? Retreating is never mentioned in ANY documentation that I can remember (please provide a page number in the rulebook or a location in-game if you have one, I may be mistaken) as a cause of the enchant dropping. It's always stated "the enchantment lasts until the end of battle or until the caster is killed." Retreating is neither, and therefore the continued spell functionality is not a bug, and hence cannot be exploited.

Besides, if the caster is under 100 fatigue after the spell goes off the person casting it is out a caster for the battle if he retreats, and if he's dropped unconcious from casting it he's not doing much retreating for a while anyhow.

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Micah said:
How is it an exploit? Retreating is never mentioned in ANY documentation that I can remember (please provide a page number in the rulebook or a location in-game if you have one, I may be mistaken) as a cause of the enchant dropping. It's always stated "the enchantment lasts until the end of battle or until the caster is killed." Retreating is neither, and therefore the continued spell functionality is not a bug, and hence cannot be exploited.

Besides, if the caster is under 100 fatigue after the spell goes off the person casting it is out a caster for the battle if he retreats, and if he's dropped unconcious from casting it he's not doing much retreating for a while anyhow.

No, it's not in the manual. It just seems kind of cheap to me. If you enter a battle wielding a Staff of Storms, Storm takes effect. If you die, the Storm stops. Why does that happen? As I said, it's just my opinion, but if the maintainer of the Storm has gone away, then I think it makes sense that the Storm would end.

I suppose we'll know for sure once the status of the item pertaining to this in the Bug Shortlist thread gets resolved (WAD or bug).

[Saint_Dude]

Argh!! So much death and destruction! (yet, curiously, only 34 corpses in our capital).

That battle, and the subsequent results make no sense at all. Very unsatisfying. I was very curious how all the battlefield spells would stack up, and how certain mages would perform. The way things turned out, I am left with little information - just a lot of dead mages and lost toys.

And for all the difficulty T'ien Ch'i has in transporting troops across the sea, there is another huge force preparing for a siege already. Round 2 looks like it is going to start immediately.

[Saint_Dude]

OUCH!!!! and more OUCH!!!

Three fire storms, 5 earth attacks, 3 ashen angels, lots of Tartarians, a bunch of astral probing/attacks. Nasty, Nasty, Nasty!

Forget for a moment the shear gem cost, which is huge, T'ien Ch'i has demonstrated that it has a large number of high level mages in various paths (perhaps all the elemental royalty and some demi liches?).

Round 2 is shaping up to be just plain ugly. All these remote attacks managed to take out some of our top leaders. I am afraid our northern force is irreparably damaged. The end is near.