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		If you're looking to be logical try hanging the base and ship construction techs off of a theoretical "Engineering" field. And please, please break up Stellar Manipulations already! It's been a catch-all for various almost unrelated techs for much too long. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I would also like to see planets use more resources.  Currently, they really do not require much to maintain, which fuels rapid expansion. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I would also like to see planets use more resources.  Currently, they really do not require much to maintain, which fuels rapid expansion.  
			
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 That is a tough one to balance slow developement versus fun in playing.  If it takes forever for the game to get going you could find MANY people quitting the game for greener pastures.
 
I too like the build up process, but we gotta find a happy medium.  I think all that is handled well with the research cost selection on the game set up along with planets and values, etc.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Baron Munchausen said: 
"And please, please break up Stellar Manipulations already! It's been a catch-all for various almost unrelated techs for much too long."
Indeed. I break it up in all of my mods.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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You should know how fast people can expand and abuse the system... Just ask Grend in our game.  There is no stopping his expansion, unless everyone else expands the same way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Any idea of how long it will take before you have a playable version of this mod CK? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I agree,  but I think establishing a new colony should be a decision, not a necessity.  Grend posted an expansion guide on se.com, and I've seen him do it in several games.  It is very effective and there is nothing to hold back the massive expansion.  I just think there should be more expense to establishing a new colony.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		aegisx said: 
"I agree,  but I think establishing a new colony should be a decision, not a necessity." 
 
It's not entirely clear to me why nerfing one of the Xs of a 4X game is a good thing. Civ4 did it, and it sucked; probably the worst part of the game. Establishing new colonies should always be beneficial, and thus not much of a decision. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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