Best Unit in the Game... Any thoughts?

PvK · #1 July 6th, 2007, 12:28 AM

It does take some doing to get Tartarians, but it's worth doing and there are death summons which can help many nations climb up to it. To get started you need a D2 mage, or a D1W2 or D1S3. Then you can summon something with D3, boost to D5, which lets you summon a D4, then you can probably find something to boost him to D7.

Then... you get to summon pretender-class guys for 10 death gems each turn. They're certainly worth GOR'ing and healing, but are very strong even without it, and give you more high-level random magic.

vfb · #2 July 6th, 2007, 01:04 AM

The FAQ states that for removing undead afflictions, you need either the Chalice or Gift of Health. I've got a few Faery Queens sitting around 'Heal'ing in one game, and while they managed to patch up a few devils, I haven't noticed any of my Tartarians healing at all.

Has anyone had any success healing Tartarians without the Chalice or Gift of Health?

Kristoffer O · #3 July 6th, 2007, 07:04 AM

I have a vague recollection that we didn't want them to be healed, making inanimated unhealable, but that might be wishful thinking.

Meglobob · #4 July 6th, 2007, 10:24 AM

Fairy queens are absolutely useless when it comes to healing tartarians, they in particular seem to stuggle to heal feeblemind.

Amhazair · #5 July 6th, 2007, 12:24 PM

Gift of health does a rather nice job of curing afflictions on Tartarians. In the one game where I got it up while I had Tartarians I estimate (very rough guess, with a rather small sample size since the game didn't last very long anymore) that afflictions had about 1 chance in 4 of disappearing.

Meglobob · #6 July 6th, 2007, 03:10 PM

The chalice is far better it basically heals same turn the tartarian is summoned or the next turn.

Lazy_Perfectionist · #7 July 6th, 2007, 03:15 PM

I have to like the Frost Father. It has a few weaknesses, namely encumberance of 3, and lack of any reinvig. But I've had one, no equipment, only alt 2 spells, take down fifty undead before falling unconscious. Considering I didn't get any use out of the chill aura, that wasn't bad. If i can get the right gear, he'll be untouchable.

Salamander8 · #8 July 7th, 2007, 11:05 PM

I had the combo of Gift of Health and having a commander with the chalice in the same army as some of my tartarans in a recent SP game. This really helped cure all those afflictions.

NTJedi · #9 July 7th, 2007, 06:04 PM

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Meglobob said:
Fairy queens are absolutely useless when it comes to healing tartarians, they in particular seem to stuggle to heal feeblemind.

The fairy queens and priestesses with healing cannot heal the undead. To heal the undead only Gift of Reason or the Chalice will work.

PvK · #10 July 6th, 2007, 05:02 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
I have a vague recollection that we didn't want them to be healed, making inanimated unhealable, but that might be wishful thinking.

I think Tartarians would be much closer to balanced (and more interesting) if their starting afflictions could not be healed.