Good Troop Summons

DrPraetorious · #1 August 13th, 2007, 07:51 PM

Don't diss living statues.

Living statues exist to die in great numbers while the mages behind them spam spells.

Sure, living statues aren't immune to any kind of magic, have no rythym, can't dance, never get laid, etc. etc., but if you have an E9 God (for the blessing, presumably), you can make living statues very fast, very cheap, in *huge* numbers.

And then who cares if they die? That's what they're for - at least they take a while to do it. Sure, mechanical men are better - but they're not enough better to not-die, so why pay extra?

Mind Elemental · #2 August 14th, 2007, 06:32 AM

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DrPraetorious said:
Don't diss living statues.

Living statues exist to die in great numbers while the mages behind them spam spells.

Sure, living statues aren't immune to any kind of magic, have no rythym, can't dance, never get laid, etc. etc., but if you have an E9 God (for the blessing, presumably), you can make living statues very fast, very cheap, in *huge* numbers.

And then who cares if they die? That's what they're for - at least they take a while to do it. Sure, mechanical men are better - but they're not enough better to not-die, so why pay extra?

In other words, they're like vine ogres -- cheap damage soakers? (Well, quite a bit steeper than VOs, unless you have that E9 mage -- but their MR is much better. Are they still worthwhile if your Earth magic isn't quite up to that level?)

Good calls regarding winter wolves and claymen, folks.

Any opinion on summer lions?

NTJedi · #3 August 14th, 2007, 11:47 AM

Living Statues are good for holding regular enemy troops from advancing and they ignore most arrows because of their protection and large shield. They will fall quickly to any elemental attacks and/or elemental auras.

Sombre · #4 August 14th, 2007, 12:34 PM

Bog beasts.

Enough said.

Kristoffer O · #5 August 14th, 2007, 01:33 PM

They might be N2W1 now Sombre

EarthRaver · #6 August 14th, 2007, 01:40 PM

how to summon cheap and massive troops without using any gems?

Sombre · #7 August 14th, 2007, 01:55 PM

Play a mod in the 'balancing phase' ;]

KO: Yay! -does the bog beast dance- Any chance of a bog beast migration random event?

Lazy_Perfectionist · #8 August 14th, 2007, 02:14 PM

Summer Lions are rather expensive at six gems apiece, compared to Winter Wolves at 2 apiece. And I haven't played a nation favored with fire magic of any worthwhile amount, yet. So I can't say they are any good, but can throw out some ideas. I'm not a fan of the cost, though.

While not exactly correct, you can consider them the heavy cavalry of summons (though not the elites). They do have low length weapons (bite, claw), but they do have two attacks where Winter Wolves have only the one. The combination of 44 hitpoints and ethereal means that they could, in theory, intercept knights without immediately folding. They lack the power to penetrate heavy armor, though if they can survive a few turns, they'll get the chance to penetrate thanks to fatigue - while they have 0 encumberance, Knights have quite a bit more. Though, a 19 and 17 damage attack are by no means bad if they find a target soft enough.

They've got a size 4, which is a bit of trouble, though mitigated by their ethereal nature, but does allow them to intercept larger forces than size 3 units.

Its worth giving them a try, but it would be an expensive waste to relegate them to cleanup duty. You'd almost certainly want to buff them, as well, though size four makes them a bit difficult to buff with area one spells. Or combo them with spells that are less likely to affect ethereal units.

I'll have to look into what nations do reliably get these, but probably wont, since I'm not a fan of nations with a drop of blood magic.

Kristoffer O · #9 August 14th, 2007, 02:15 PM

> Any chance of a bog beast migration random event?

I think I can imagine that one