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August 17th, 2007, 02:12 AM
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Re: Game Suggestions
I agree. A Space Hulk mod would be awesome. I can see something like that working.
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August 17th, 2007, 11:16 AM
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Re: Game Suggestions
GeorgiaBoy, what kind of quests did you have in mind?
As for a Space Hulk mod, I agree, RAG is very well suited to having these different character types and various pieces of equipment and weaponry. All we need is mission objectives, as GeorgiaBoy suggested.
Looking at the mission book I can see:
Suicide Mission: Deliver a flamer hit on the control room
Exterminate: Kill 30 stealers before the squad is destroyed
Rescue: Get the undamaged C.A.T safely to an airlock
Cleanse and Burn: Get a Flamer hit on both of two gene banks
Decoy: move 5 marines off the map at the point shown on map
Defend: Stop stealers damaging the duct wall for 16 turns
Objectives could be specified in the LevelInfo for a given map. How could we do this kind of thing?
[ExterminateGoals]
Type=Objective
Victory=XP(60)
and:
[ExterminateLevelInfo]
Type=MyPluginLevelInfo
Objectives=ExterminateGoals
We could catch killing 30 stealers by assigning them a known XP (e.g. 2) and setting XP(60) as a win condition.
Now how about the other missions?
Suicide, needs a flamer hit on the air duct. We could write a plug-in for area of effect weapons, then script up a little object that was immune to anything except fire. We would need to be able to add new types of room, like air locks etc. so there's a little more work with this mission.
Just thinking out loud how all this could be done. It's not technically difficult, I think it would just need a gathering of minds to get it done cleanly.
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August 17th, 2007, 11:18 AM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Oh, we'd need to add functionality for controlling more than one character too. !! =)
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August 17th, 2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Space Hulk for the 3d0 was one of my favorite games. The map generator would have to create less diamond shape rooms and more one tile corridors.
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August 17th, 2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Room types and map density are openly scriptable already.
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August 17th, 2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Sigh, now I'm going to have to play some space hulk tonight  One fond memory is when a flamer dies and it sets fire to everything around it , I died so many times due to that
Is it possible to mod the game so that the player doesn't control or follow one unit?
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August 18th, 2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
I was just browsing the QT3 forums and saw a thread entitled "Suspenseful Game Moments" and noticed that the first comment was about Space Hulk. I thought, "Wow, what a strange coincidence, Space Hulk is suddenly *everywhere*." but then I paid attention to the author and realized there's not a sudden Space Hulk conspiracy on the rise. 
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August 18th, 2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Quote:
scott_wakeling said:
GeorgiaBoy, what kind of quests did you have in mind?
Generic Quests:
1) Find the (maybe) unique item(s)
2) Kill the monster(s)
3) Talk to NPC(s)
4) Kill monster(s) for whatever (their head, diamond,etc.)
5) Escort NPC(s)
6) Timed quest (any quest)
7) Deliver item to different area.
Any of these should also be linkable (quest #2,#1,and #3 going back to different #3 for reward). The reward for be gold, an item (unique) or another NPC (say a princess)...
As for a Space Hulk mod, I agree, RAG is very well suited to having these different character types and various pieces of equipment and weaponry. All we need is mission objectives, as GeorgiaBoy suggested.
Looking at the mission book I can see:
Suicide Mission: Deliver a flamer hit on the control room
Exterminate: Kill 30 stealers before the squad is destroyed
Rescue: Get the undamaged C.A.T safely to an airlock
Cleanse and Burn: Get a Flamer hit on both of two gene banks
Decoy: move 5 marines off the map at the point shown on map
Defend: Stop stealers damaging the duct wall for 16 turns
Objectives could be specified in the LevelInfo for a given map. How could we do this kind of thing?
[ExterminateGoals]
Type=Objective
Victory=XP(60)
and:
[ExterminateLevelInfo]
Type=MyPluginLevelInfo
Objectives=ExterminateGoals
We could catch killing 30 stealers by assigning them a known XP (e.g. 2) and setting XP(60) as a win condition.
Now how about the other missions?
Suicide, needs a flamer hit on the air duct. We could write a plug-in for area of effect weapons, then script up a little object that was immune to anything except fire. We would need to be able to add new types of room, like air locks etc. so there's a little more work with this mission.
Just thinking out loud how all this could be done. It's not technically difficult, I think it would just need a gathering of minds to get it done cleanly.
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August 18th, 2007, 07:48 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
Can rarity be set below 0.1? Like 0.00001?
GB
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August 18th, 2007, 10:31 PM
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Re: Game Suggestions
How about expanded 'mutators' like paralyzation (a SUPER slow, perhaps), drunk could be stun, summon monster, lightning damage, magical resistance, invulnerability to another mutator (definable duration), drain 2 levels (a double 'Drain'. The chance to drain should be definable...
GB
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