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August 19th, 2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: quicky update
Been there, done that.
Looking at code I wrote years ago either has me laughing or amazed that I wrote it.
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August 22nd, 2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: quicky update
Very strange. Apparently the secret to getting continents and oceans lies in the ZOOM command. I thought that was zoom like it is in Dom3 but apparently it ties into the code.
Setting zoom to 5.00 got me provinces with very dot-scattered edges. And setting it to 0.25 got me provinces and oceans and also took away the mixed-terrain provinces.
I guess that after I run the maps then I will need to include a fix to the zoom in my script that fixes things like map name and description.
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August 22nd, 2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: quicky update
yeah, zoom is a little odd. if i remember correctly, this is approximately how it works: imagine you are standing over a map, looking down at it, zoom determines how close your face is to the map. it can dramatically affect how things actually look. i cant remember all of the things i tied it into, nearly everything i expect, but i do recall that it did not lend itself very well to several applications, such as growing terrains.
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August 22nd, 2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: quicky update
Actually thats how I thought it worked. But apparently it has a big affect on how provinces are drawn, and how they are grouped.
Its a good thing to have found. I can get maps that are alot like Dom3s as far as continent/ocean. Or ones as scattered as I was getting before and thinking I was stuck with it.
The problem I have now is that the settings I had randomly stumbled upon for getting a decent spread of terrains (especially mountains) are no good. I have to start over changing numbers until I stumble on a working ratio.
Can you give me an idea of pthresh, tsize, psize, and some which might be in the program but I dont know it?
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August 22nd, 2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: quicky update
i think if you scale your old values in proportion to how you scaled the zoom that will set you up. if not, i can start messing around with the old mapgen a bit to figure it out.
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August 22nd, 2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: quicky update
No no no, this is good. We *want* the maps to be more clumped  .
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September 8th, 2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: quicky update
work is progressing, i have something now that allows for the overall land percentage to be more or less specified. i have to run some tests to figure out a few constants in my algorithms, but things are looking good. maybe some screens soon.
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